**KAZ**

Great looking birds and really nice photos If this is so, Squeak you need to get some coccivet into their water or your bird will get sick real fast.

Worth looking into isnt it

I was out for dinner last night with a group of friends. Talking about pets and budgies etc in general conversation when we were all talking about our animals. One very well educated lady was telling me about mushroom extract and how it has been used to treat various ailments in animals as well as people. It is being used to treat cancers and tumours and a vet here in W.A. has used it with exceptional results in animals including birds. It is said it may even have an effect on such things as beak and feather disease amongst others. Definitely being used with good results on cancers and tumours. Interesting and I will look further into it as well as talk with the vet who is using this as a treatment. This may take awhile to acchieve, so putting it out there for any of you who want to research the mushroom extract and see what we can come up with by adding any relevant information we find here http://ezinearticles.com/?Mushrooms-Are-Fo...&id=2913399 http://neuro.vetmed.ufl.edu/neuro/AltMed/C...ncer_AltMed.htm http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Sta...act/203001.aspx http://www.examiner.com/nutrition-in-sacra...bad-cholesterol

You seem to have used a flash on the camera when tasking these photos ? That will alter the way the violet is seen. Possibly the hen is sky violet. Take some normal daylight shots tomorrow

Parents to the grey opaline baby that hatched from the cold egg and was fostered in another nest......... ...........have hatched out a sibling today. Fingers crossed it does well. One egg to go. Sibling fostered into another nest. the hen isn't doing the right thing by her chicks. I believe she has gone out of condition. Last egg was there last night and this morning the egg had been opened and the chick found dead. It had been battered and bitten and hidden in the nesting materials by the mother. She has been removed to a holding cage for a week or two before going back into the flights. Other chicks that have fledged have been put into a new kindie cage in one of the corner units I made recently The dilute Dad escaped his breeder cage and went looking for his chicks He found them and when I found him he was trying to feed them through the bars of the kindie cage

Once I came home and found all my youngsters ( 6-8 months ) flying around in the birdroom. They had been in holding cages while I built the new aviary. I caught them all up and caged them again. It was about 4 months later when I pulled a vertical bank of breeding cages out from the wall to vacuum and clean behind it. I found the best young cock I had ever bred flattened against the wall. He had wriggled down behind the cabinets when they were out that day, and I didnt notice I hadnt caught him up. There he was flat as a pancake.

Splat is right, but a blue ring can also mean an older budgie. There will be a symbol and a number running across vertically that will tell you his year of hatching. If you let me know his code details I will be able to tell you who bred him

We all have terrible mishaps and we all do the odd silly thing or two that we kick ourselves over for quite some time. The idea to this thread is to allow ourselves to look just as "human"and fallible as the next person

Percentages of really good chicks thus far as compared to medium good chicks isnt great, BUT I do have some others in nests that are promising.........and then there is all those fertile eggs and pinkies yet to develop into "something"

Parents to the grey opaline baby that hatched from the cold egg and was fostered in another nest......... ...........have hatched out a sibling today. Fingers crossed it does well. One egg to go. Sibling fostered into another nest. the hen isn't doing the right thing by her chicks. I believe she has gone out of condition. Last egg was there last night and this morning the egg had been opened and the chick found dead. It had been battered and bitten and hidden in the nesting materials by the mother. She has been removed to a holding cage for a week or two before going back into the flights. Other chicks that have fledged have been put into a new kindie cage in one of the corner units I made recently

Very sorry to hear this mate. It may not have been about the crop feed. It may just have been him giving up, thats all ........ :question:

okay , I need some more of that, get my hint Kaz :question: I will bring some over when I come to melbourne in October.

is he is a small area (cage) with seed on the floor ? PS Put some of that egg powder in his formula.

still female ? Yes

Again I ask you to answer this Alan.................... You are advocating this to save money..........when frontline is expensive, doesnt keep for the future in the applicator it comes in, and you use two drops as you suggest. My ivermectin is $9 bottle and does a whole flock two or three times over............one drop once only. As scalyface is easily diagnosed and does NOT need a vet for that, if the ivermectin is sold over the counter at an avian vet then how is is saving money to use expensive Frontline in place of a product especially sold to be used for this purpose ? How is yours a cheaper and better method ?? And what would you say or do if someone follows your advice and overdoses a bird ? PS your arrogance and judgmental ways thus far with other members you have not taken the time to get to know, defies logic. Great way to introduce yourself to a forum. :question: Having a bad hair day Alan ?

Again Alan you just cant help yourself taking posts into casting aspersions against someone based on so called INTELLIGENCE LEVEL ??? Keep it nice Alan or I will be forced top implement measures that you may not like or agree with.

Looks like it from here too :question:

Are you crop feeding him Splat ? With anything other than the polyaid ?

Female

Without going into this in an emotive way, I just want to say that since you mentioned the difference in costs.................. frontline isnt cheap to start with. My vet sells ivermectin for birds scalyface over the counter. A $9 bottle which does the whole flock and then some for over a year. No vet appointment necessary. One drop not two. I think I will stick with this :question:

I put a seed dispenser ion the aviary once that was tube shaped and had an open top section. Found an excellent cockbird had gone in from the top and drowned in seed as he went in head first and couldnt back out. Stopped using large seed dispensers in the aviary after finding a hen had dived in and up into the reservoir section and suffocated in seed because she couldnt find her way out. Found a bird dead and hanging in the aviary once from the fringing on one of those interlocking rope swings with fringing off the bottom. Cut the fringe off it. Forgot there was another the same and found a hen had caught her wing on it and flapped and flapped until she died of shock and stress. No more string swings now. Transfered a bird from one show cage into another on the back verandah ready for a show, and another better bird got out through the gap in the showcage door and flew away. Stepped onto a baby budgie as I stepped into the aviary once and the baby budgie flew under my foot as I stepped in. My first ever attempt at crop feeding without being shown how.......I heard a pop sound as I pierced the trachea instead of finding the crop Had a blind budgie once. Until I could decide what to do about her I put her in a cage and hung the cage up on the back verandah. The cage ( I didnt realise ) had bars too wide apart and this blind budgie escaped and flew away :question:

Splat.......this is the fella I told to die if her was going to............he wouldnt eat for the longest time and I was crop feeding him to keep him alive. He turned the corner one day after I dared him to die.

:) :rofl:

I think if you have to pick up BEAR POO then you should be allowed to call him BEAR. HIS dog indeed

I just want to say...........that I had one like this. he wouldnt eat either and looked like a vulture. Hunched and dehydrated and skinny as. I was crop feeding him morning and night. One time I had a budgie show to go to and I was going to be gone all day. I looked at that pathetic creature and I said.....Okay, if you want to die, go ahead and die. When I came home that night he was still with us and his crop was full of seed. He has gone on to win Best in Show on several occasions. I hope the same happens for your little guy. I hope he turns the corner too