**KAZ**

Cloud seems to be an opaline sky violet

Yes, you can get violet recessive pieds

Puts paid to that old wives tale that budgies pair for life doesnt it

Bad idea......too many distraction to the breeding pair and also other birds clambering all over the breeding cabinets.

Very nice I think you have all females too

There has been an ongoing love affair between the two flights. I took some photos The cinnamon grey fella was trying to interfere as the girl was on his side of the flights Anyway....the spangle hen was keen and so was the green cock so I caught them both and put them together in a show cage to see how they got along I may just pair them up.

more blood than you would expect to see. Have you felt the eggs to see if the shell feels rough ? Good fertility here

Foster the egg to the other nest and let her start again. She will

older ones always look HUGE in comparison to the younger ones

Really good strong looking chicks Splat. We'll see you in the Nationals in no time flat

Calcivet and warmth for now. May I ask why you put her straight from a breeding cage and eggs into the aviary ? Best they rest up in a holding cage for a week or two before the rigors of the aviary, after breeding. I never put any straight out into the aviary from breeding. If you end up at the vets...................make sure you ask to be taught to crop feed and get yourself a 14 guage crop needle.

This grey baby is very friendly foster Mum is in the nestbox and this time I hope she has some babies of her own.....as she raised two fosters this time.

Just a little side note Dean. We are more inclined to post about the good stuff here and keep the bad stuff to ourselves most of the time Doesnt mean we arent having bad times, just that we dont always talk about it on forum. You are in great company here

Can you crop feed ? If so I would crop feed her some calcivet with a few drops of warm water.

Yes Seems Dad is split cinnamon too

Once we get into better birds and also our hopes for these birds increases, we feel the disasters more keenly than we would otherwise. Most of these things you have had happen seems to be par for the course in breeding these "better birds " but because our hopes and dreams are riding on them we feel every little things as a real disaster. After awhile you may take it as normal. Many reasons for what you have experienced.......I dont need to tell you as you have and will work it out for yourself. I just know that its always the ones I have high hopes for that do not work out. The corker of a chick that fails, or the best breeding pairs that have major issues. Then there are the "surprises" that make us smile for awhile I hope for your sake it gets better, but it just sounds like normal stuff for me.

THUNDRA............without a doubt one of the best young hens I bred last year. Dont know how she did it but she has broken or dislocated her leg right up high at the hip socket joint. No cure for that I know I have to euthanase her, but I cant bring myself to do it right now. She cannot stand. She is currently in a show cage with warm lamp.

This one figured out how to escape from the breeder cage and took a few flying laps around the birdroom This hen ( BOOF ) did okay for her first night out of the nestbox. this hen now has another hatchling This pair have two chicks in foster nests YF chick

Parents to the grey opaline baby that hatched from the cold egg and was fostered in another nest......... ...........have hatched out a sibling today. Fingers crossed it does well. One egg to go.

If at all worried about bleach residue, do a final clean with white vinegar in a spray bottle :laughter:

Ino is commonly used in texas clearbody breeding. Pretty normal for you to have got an ino chick.

I agree with Finnie

dilute and greywing babies..........all out of the nestbox and all eating well.

you got me wrong, im not alking about quarantine, i am mature enough to understand that it is a safety issue. I am talking about being unfair about putting budgies with the same categorie as kangoroos and koalas as they are the animals living only in Australia....anyway. thanks others for the links, they are very helpfull. . Can you please enlarge upon this topic so I understand more about what you are talking about :laughter:

Decent size too which is good.