Lou Lou And Luvie

[renee 0]

Here is the story of Lou Lou and Luvie:

 

Lou Lou is a gorgeous Lutino hen I bought at the SWBC Written Auction in December bred in 2009 by Cec and Brenda Gearing.

 

LOU LOU

 

At the beginning of last week I noticed that her eye was sore which I thought unusual 'cause she had just had her Lice & Mites treatment. But I caught her up on Wednesday and brought her inside (the garage is way too hot for quarantine any more) and I was upset to see she had rubbed it really, really red.

 

I decided to give Baytril in the water and to make sure she was getting it I crop fed her the dose for a few days. Unfortunately during this time she started to lose condition and I noticed she wasn't touching any of her food.

 

Check out Lou Lou's red eye:

 

Come Friday it was panic stations, her eye looked no better and she was starting to feel thin and I was starting to crop feed her budgie starter to make sure she was getting food down her. I remembered a post Liv did about Ionic Silver cream being used for sore eyes so I started ringing around all the Health Shops to no avail ... so I did a Google and found Belinda's Natural Animal Remedies in Tasmania and although she didn't have the cream ahe did have the liquid form which she assures me can be applied with an eye dropper. I promptly paid her and hopefully I'll get it soon.

 

In the meantime, what to do about Lou Lou? I could tell she wasn't happy 'cause she's been making those gr gr gr noises budgies do when they are particularly unimpressed with something.

 

I consulted my trusty Diseases in Budgerigars book and decided that conjunctivtus was an option. So I pulled apart her cage and gave it a good dosing of AIL, removed all perches and scrubbed tham and then baked them in the oven.

 

Here's the cage:

Then I had a brainwave! Why not put Luvie in with her!

 

Luvie is a cock I got from Hans last year, he doesn't have a tail and put him in the main aviary and he doesn't figure very high up in the pecking order at all BUT pop him in with a hen one-on-one and he is a real Romeo Just last month my best Greygreen hen was crook and not eating until I popped him in with her and within a blink of an eye they were carrying on like an old married couple.

 

LUVIE

 

So in he went yesterday first thing. At the beginning she wouldn't look at him and did that 'I'm hard to get' thing hens sometime do But then I saw she did a bum wriggle and I knew all would be well. Sure enough 10 mins later they were on the same perch and I know that Luvie will be working his magic and feeding her to bursting point before much longer.

Edited January 17, 2010 by renee

[GenericBlue 0]

is he not an important cock bird to u ren as i feel it was not a good thing to do putting a healthy bird in with one who has very clear sights of iill health

the hen not only has bad eye but thinning

why have you not taken her to a vet for testing ?????

i guess you will find out if its transmittable by putting your cock in their with her

so will find out weather or not its something contagious

[renee 0]

is he not an important cock bird to u ren as i feel it was not a good thing to do putting a healthy bird in with one who has very clear sights of iill health

the hen not only has bad eye but thinning

why have you not taken her to a vet for testing ?????

i guess you will find out if its transmittable by putting your cock in their with her

so will find out weather or not its something contagious

She started losing condition when I isolated her from her friends and she made it quite clear to me that she is not happy on her own.

 

She did her quarantine period in December and was treated with doxy as par to the course but as her eye is itchy and not running I am confident she does not have chlamydia psittacosis. Baytril is the obvious choice for sore eyes but as it was not effective I am considering conjunctivitus as Plan B. This is very contagious but non life threatening.

 

I have a few years experience now with diagnosis and treatment so I am quietly confident with most things. When I have exhausted my options I and if there is no improvement I will take her to the vet if necessary.

[GenericBlue 0]

you can use human conjunctivitis eye ointment for it ren it works a treat

Edited January 17, 2010 by GenericBlue

[renee 0]

you can use human conjunctivitis eye ointment for it ren it works a treat

Really!!!! Thank You for that tip

 

Going out now to get some asap.

[robyn 0]

Hi. Maybe she has a bit of grit, e.g. in her eye, maybe you could try flushing it with an eyedropper or something to see if that helps?

[renee 0]

you can use human conjunctivitis eye ointment for it ren it works a treat

Really!!!! Thank You for that tip Going out now to get some asap.

Grrrrrrrr, what is it about Perth?! Can't get eye cream .... or anything that would stop the itching around the eye ....

 

Me: "I would like some cream for conjuntivitus, please."

Pharmacist: "Would that be for you or someone else?"

Me: "Someone else."

Pharmacist: "We have some drops for mild conjunctivitus"

Me: "I really would like a cream, the area around the eye is very red from rubbing"

Pharmacist: "Well we only have drops for mild cases, perhaps they need to go to the Doctor and get a prescription"

Me: "It is for my budgie!"

 

In the end I was offered Paw Paw cream (which I already have) and which does not say on the label that it reduces itchiness.

 

The Ionic Silver should be coming soon is all I can say at this point.

Hi. Maybe she has a bit of grit, e.g. in her eye, maybe you could try flushing it with an eyedropper or something to see if that helps?

Thanks Robyn. The eye itself seems fine, it is the surrounding area which is affected.

Edited January 17, 2010 by renee

[**KAZ** 0]

If you can manage a trip to my place I have some ointment specifically prescribed for birds for that exact problem. Name is CHLORSIG OINTMENT.

 

read http://www.mydr.com.au/cmis/PDFs/CMI2981.pdf

Edited January 17, 2010 by KAZ

[renee 0]

If you can manage a trip to my place I have some ointment specifically prescribed for birds for that exact problem. Name is CHLORSIG OINTMENT.

 

read http://www.mydr.com.au/cmis/PDFs/CMI2981.pdf

.... if it weren't so bloody hot and you live so far away from my place plus that the ionic silver is due tomorrow ...

[splat 0]

Renee I use the Chlorsig on my birds too, it was described for me when I had chemicals splashed in my a while ago and it was to stop any infection they I may get .

Of course I thought beauty great for the birds. I had a cock a few weeks ago with a crook eye washed with slat water and put some chlorsig on he a was better straight away. But at the moment I have on of my best hens with a bad eye. I treated whne I first noticed it but then we had a couple of days last that were too hot to handly her because she stresses out so much and squarks the whole time she is awful. WELL THE EYE GOT WORSE all swollen puffy but I have been doing 2 days in row and she is almost back on track .

Chlorsig is great stuff but salt water is great is it's own right too.

[**KAZ** 0]

I bet if you phoned a chemist thats open and asked for chlorsig ointment they would have some. Around $6-$7

[renee 0]

I bet if you phoned a chemist thats open and asked for chlorsig ointment they would have some. Around $6-$7

Yes they do .... but you need a prescription

Chlorsig is great stuff but salt water is great is it's own right too.

How will salt water affect the really red part of the outside of the eye? Won't it just annoy her more?

[splat 0]

Slat water kills germs, my hens eye was swollen that bad she couldn't open I used a solution of warm salted water, it didn't worry her at all, I then out the oinment on.

If I need anything for my birds like fungle tablets or the chlorsig I will go to the doctors and ask them to write me out a script for the item and I tell them it's for my birds and they are very willing to do it.

[renee 0]

Slat water kills germs, my hens eye was swollen that bad she couldn't open I used a solution of warm salted water, it didn't worry her at all, I then out the oinment on.

okay, that is good to know

If I need anything for my birds like fungle tablets or the chlorsig I will go to the doctors and ask them to write me out a script for the item and I tell them it's for my birds and they are very willing to do it.

Lucky you My doctor is a reliable source of bad advice and hardly what I would described as helpful - I see as little of as possible.

Edited January 17, 2010 by renee

[GenericBlue 0]

I bet if you phoned a chemist thats open and asked for chlorsig ointment they would have some. Around $6-$7

Yes they do .... but you need a prescription

Chlorsig is great stuff but salt water is great is it's own right too.

How will salt water affect the really red part of the outside of the eye? Won't it just annoy her more?

 

ren salt warm water works a treat as well needs to be boiled not from tap

i have written it many times on this forum and dont bother any more to do so as seems everyone posts the same eye problem and always looking for something more than salt water to fix it

salt waters my first option i also go to the local needle exchange and by the tube sterile water for 20 cents a tube it is great when u need it instantly

and u can use one tube until empty just place it in fridge to keep hygienic

cold or warm works but warm is more comptable for bird or room temp

most times unless somthing more derogatory like parrasis birds eye clears with one to two treatments but i continue to drop a drop in morn and night for one week

its always worked

but i gone on to broline now the eye cream

[splat 0]

Thanks GB yes I did mean boiled water and then it cool.

Like you GB use this treatment first always then go on to the antibotic oinments.

[**KAZ** 0]

Bathing with a teabag and warm tea water also works in the same way as salted water.

[renee 0]

Bathing with a teabag and warm tea water also works in the same way as salted water.

Good tip!

 

I think I'll try that one now as I have bathed her eye in salty water BUT it wasn't boiled ...

[splat 0]

Soory Renee forgot to mention the water should be boiled.

 

Well my hen has done a back flip, her eye has swollen over night , so I have been doing the salt water and chlorsig and cutting all feathers around I.

The vet adviced me to give her doxy as it is a broadspectrum antibiotic, first I thought why it's her eye how is that going to make it better but then I relised what he ment. The doxy will fight what ever bacteria that is causing her eye to swell they it is.

[renee 0]

The vet advised me to give her doxy as it is a broad-spectrum antibiotic, first I thought why it's her eye how is that going to make it better but then I realised what he meant. The doxy will fight what ever bacteria that is causing her eye to swell they it is.

Interesting you should say that, I had hoped the Baytril would clear up any infection but it did diddly-squat so Lou Lou and Luvie have been on probiotics since Friday. :hap:

 

I think I may keep them on the probos for today (it is so hot) and once the ionic silver arrives give her that and perhaps give her a quick course of doxy. :sadsorry: Really I am playing it by ear for the moment. :hap:

[**KAZ** 0]

Googling eye problems in budgies you find these kinds of advice......

 

Conjunctivitis can be caused by a number of factors, to including injuries, bacteria, fungi, nematodes, and protozoa. Diagnostic testing is necessary to determine exactly what causes each case of conjunctivitis.

 

Eyes. Check for changes in the normality of your bird's eyes. Swelling and/or clouding can mean infections or mites, or a Vitamin A deficiency. When coupled with other symptoms it could mean a more severe respiratory infections, or even psittacosis. If you notice continuing (longer than 24 hours) eye discharge, or changes in the eyes normal appearance, go to your vet.

[renee 0]

Googling eye problems in budgies you find these kinds of advice......

 

Conjunctivitis can be caused by a number of factors, to including injuries, bacteria, fungi, nematodes, and protozoa. Diagnostic testing is necessary to determine exactly what causes each case of conjunctivitis.

 

Eyes. Check for changes in the normality of your bird's eyes. Swelling and/or clouding can mean infections or mites, or a Vitamin A deficiency. When coupled with other symptoms it could mean a more severe respiratory infections, or even psittacosis. If you notice continuing (longer than 24 hours) eye discharge, or changes in the eyes normal appearance, go to your vet.

No discharge thankfully. :sadsorry: Just very red from rubbing.

[splat 0]

There is no puss or mucky eye with hen Kaz, it is a feather that has been giving her ***. BUT the eye is really swollen. But he wants me to give her doxy but seems I have oxyB here I thought I would give that, as it is basically the same stuff but the measure is not in the bottle.

[renee 0]

Well I bathed Lou Lou's eye twice in salty water and then today so far twice more using a soft facial wipe dipped in tea. It is looking heaps better! :hap:

 

How often should I bathe her eye per day? :sadsorry:

[**KAZ** 0]

Well I bathed Lou Lou's eye twice in salty water and then today so far twice more using a soft facial wipe dipped in tea. It is looking heaps better! :hap:

 

How often should I bathe her eye per day? :sadsorry:

 

 

You can use the teabag itself Renee. How many times you must guage by checking her...maybe twice....your choice.