renee 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I am just reading this now for the first time, so Renee, you will have to forgive my tardiness in responding. :laughter: :rofl: Yes, yes I am eating humble pie as I write. You know what I don't get Kaz - Why go to all the bother of bringing along tools to unscrew the aviary wire from the frame when wire cutters are much quicker? Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I am just reading this now for the first time, so Renee, you will have to forgive my tardiness in responding. This is terrible Kaz. I am shocked that people do this. I hope you have not lost any. From a purely selfish point of view, check on Quiche!!! I did....check the quiche topic snigger snigger poor dave makeing him wait like that kaz :rofl: remember dave in the back yard with the shot gun :laughter: Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted January 15, 2010 if you are trying ot be subtle, than screw drivers are the go. They can be used as part of a long term plan, wire cutters are short term, one off Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 Cordless drill with screwdriver attachment is very quick..wire cutters on good quality wire would take longer Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted January 15, 2010 if you are trying ot be subtle, than screw drivers are the go. They can be used as part of a long term plan, wire cutters are short term, one off sorry dave i will change that to a huge baseball bat then im not a gun person either myself my hummors not always that good soz mate Link to comment
Catherine 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 5,207 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 617 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,480 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 11, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2010 That is very worrying, Kaz. It was an extremely brazen act. The perpetrators were probably nearby when you went outside. Do you know an electrician or a farmer? Those special fences really hurt. Link to comment
renee 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) Cordless drill with screwdriver attachment is very quick..wire cutters on good quality wire would take longer But aren't they noisy? And wouldn't the birds go beserk? Come to think of it, given that that corner is so close to your neighbors' I am surprised no one came and investigated! Edited January 15, 2010 by renee Link to comment
Amy S 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 5,666 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 601 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,375 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/10/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 1, 2022 Birthday: 23/04/1982 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I've only just gotten to this thread as my internet connection keeps dying. I am so sorry to hear about this Kaz! What a horrible thing to do! That certainly is very daring, doing something like that - I've seen your place and I wouldn't have thought that area would be the most easily accessible sort of place, nor would I have thought anyone would do that at all. Your aviary seemed very secure. It worries me greatly. I hope whomever it is, realises that you will not put up with something like that - its just not right. I didn't think people would be like that. I hope you haven't lost any of your beautiful birds - they are safer with you than out in the wilderness and if the person was trying to "save/release" them, then they have big issues. Sounds bad, but could you maybe stick some sort of barbed wire along the edges where the screws are? Hmmm maybe not such a good idea Link to comment
pebblz72 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,792 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 98 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 820 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 9, 2010 Birthday: 05/10/1972 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Just wonder if this has something to do with the "bird mill" accusations Kaz? Link to comment
maesie 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 3,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,386 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,580 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/11/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 27, 2013 Birthday: 20/04/1979 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Just wonder if this has something to do with the "bird mill" accusations Kaz? I had the same thought, but the "bird mill" accuser apparently lives in the US acording to her profile... but not that that means anything. We all know how easy it is to supply false information on the internet. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 Just wonder if this has something to do with the "bird mill" accusations Kaz?No. The first attempt to break into the aviary was in January...........well before any bird mill accusations. Also that person is from the USA. Cordless drill with screwdriver attachment is very quick..wire cutters on good quality wire would take longerBut aren't they noisy? And wouldn't the birds go beserk? Come to think of it, given that that corner is so close to your neighbors' I am surprised no one came and investigated! Cordless drill are very quiet and wont be heard unless you are arounf 15-20 feet away. Torchlight moving around down there would be a good reason the birds were going berserk in there earlier in the week during the night though. If someone was down there using a torch.Neighbours wont investigate noises there either as they are used to us using tools down there and used to the birds noises too. Link to comment
pebblz72 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,792 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 98 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 820 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 9, 2010 Birthday: 05/10/1972 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Just wonder if this has something to do with the "bird mill" accusations Kaz? No. The first attempt to break into the aviary was in January...........well before any bird mill accusations. Also that person is from the USA. Was just a thought. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 Sounds bad, but could you maybe stick some sort of barbed wire along the edges where the screws are? Hmmm maybe not such a good idea Ken has booby trapped both screws and the area. Just wonder if this has something to do with the "bird mill" accusations Kaz?No. The first attempt to break into the aviary was in January...........well before any bird mill accusations. Also that person is from the USA.Was just a thought.Thankyou too............its great when we try and problem solve Link to comment
Amy S 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 5,666 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 601 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,375 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/10/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 1, 2022 Birthday: 23/04/1982 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Ken has booby trapped both screws and the area. Good stuff Just wonder if this has something to do with the "bird mill" accusations Kaz? I thought that too but I didn't want to say it on here just in case said person was viewing these threads and posts as a guest... No. The first attempt to break into the aviary was in January...........well before any bird mill accusations. Also that person is from the USA. Thankyou too............its great when we try and problem solve It is good we can rally together isn't it? I'm glad you have support from so many people Link to comment
shannon bird breeder 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,671 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,386 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/09/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 24, 2011 Birthday: 12/09/1994 Share Posted January 15, 2010 so sorry to hear this kaz i hope you get them if i was you i will but a trip wire and have a light when some thin moves thay come on ?? sorry Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 so sorry to hear this kaz i hope you get them if i was you i will but a trip wire and have a light when some thin moves thay come on ?? sorry Good idea Shannon Thanks Link to comment
maesie 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 3,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,386 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,580 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/11/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 27, 2013 Birthday: 20/04/1979 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Sensor lights are great but you'd want to set it up so the dog's can't set it off. You can direct the sensor where ever you like though, so may be an option. Link to comment
shannon bird breeder 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,671 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,386 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/09/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 24, 2011 Birthday: 12/09/1994 Share Posted January 15, 2010 that okay i gust happy i can help out Link to comment
Finnie 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 5,135 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,545 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,055 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2020 Birthday: 06/08/1965 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Kaz, I am shocked and dismayed to log on this morning and find this topic. I had figured that whoever was stealing budgies in the news lately would not be able to bother your birds. I guess, like everyone else, I thought you had a pretty secure set-up. Well, I guess you will, now, huh? It's too bad you have to make it so secure that it hinders your own access to the screws. Be careful of that barbed wire, in future. Not only do we need Kaz to patrol the forum to rid us of our mistakes, we also need her to catch the local budgie thief, 'cause no one else has nabbed them yet. Just one more hat for you to wear, Kaz. Anyway, my thoughts and prayers are with you, as this will probably be affecting your sleep for a while. Link to comment
Daryl 0 Posted January 16, 2010 Member ID: 4,389 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 300 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,690 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 29/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Kaz, sorry to hear about this situation. I have one concern though after reaading through this thread; I only hope the person or persons resposible don't read this forum because they will have been informed of the new security measures and that you haven't contacted the police. Might be a good idea to throw a few more surprises in there and not mention it in here. Link to comment
renee 0 Posted January 16, 2010 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Kaz, sorry to hear about this situation. I have one concern though after reaading through this thread; I only hope the person or persons resposible don't read this forum because they will have been informed of the new security measures and that you haven't contacted the police. Might be a good idea to throw a few more surprises in there and not mention it in here. Yes, that's been my concern as well. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted January 16, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted January 16, 2010 i think kaz is not as predictable as some of you may think Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 16, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 Kaz, sorry to hear about this situation. I have one concern though after reaading through this thread; I only hope the person or persons resposible don't read this forum because they will have been informed of the new security measures and that you haven't contacted the police. Might be a good idea to throw a few more surprises in there and not mention it in here.I have a relative high up in the police force....he has advised some measures that I havent disclosed here i think kaz is not as predictable as some of you may think You are smarter than the average bear arent you GB Link to comment
renee 0 Posted January 17, 2010 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2010 One thing that doesn't make sense to me is the following- If someone has gone to the trouble of jumping your perimeter to gain access, evidently checked out your aviary construction and come back with tools - Why didn't they just access the flights the same way you do via the breeding room? (I'm not giving anything away here 'cause you've mentioned that in your thread about your aviary) As you have intimated, they wanted to make it so that it wouldn't be noticed and obviously been interrupted - if they had gone in the normal way you wouldn't have been the wiser! Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 17, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) One thing that doesn't make sense to me is the following-If someone has gone to the trouble of jumping your perimeter to gain access, evidently checked out your aviary construction and come back with tools - Why didn't they just access the flights the same way you do via the breeding room? (I'm not giving anything away here 'cause you've mentioned that in your thread about your aviary) As you have intimated, they wanted to make it so that it wouldn't be noticed and obviously been interrupted - if they had gone in the normal way you wouldn't have been the wiser! To access the same way we do Renee, means crossing our yard and more chance of being seen. Seems whoever has been at the aviary is coming in from the back or over a neighbours fence or another way which I wont disclose right now. Also I lock the doors of my birdroom. Edited January 17, 2010 by KAZ Link to comment
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