**KAZ** 0 Posted February 9, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 Keep an eye out for Cinnamon Eyes. They will be the Double factors. Hey Daz why do you say that because that has been my mystery all my DF seem to have red eye when they hatch so I say to myself cinnamon **** but when they are adults and breed they normal young well some anyway. so can you explain the red eye thing to me as it's driving me crazy. When a Double Factor Spangle Chcik is hatched it has Cinnamon / red / pink eyes for the first few days. (My colour blindness is showing) It is one way of quickly telling what the chicks may be. The DF hatched this morning Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted February 9, 2009 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted February 9, 2009 what, no photo? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 9, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 The DF hatched this morning Died this afternoon....yellow belly. Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted February 9, 2009 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted February 9, 2009 sorry to hear that you lost that one kaz. You have lost a few like that. Any theories? I suppose the heat can throw off their incubation time. Link to comment
shannon bird breeder 0 Posted February 9, 2009 Member ID: 4,671 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,386 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/09/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 24, 2011 Birthday: 12/09/1994 Share Posted February 9, 2009 i will love to see some of the baby soon Here it is.... I also had another chick hatch in another nestbox that was too small up against its siblings... so I put it in the spangle nest for company. thay are looking good i like the small one Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 9, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 thay are looking good i like the small one Those ones are from another nest. I was just showing the tiny one who belongs to another pair, but I have fostered it to the Spangles nestbox. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted February 10, 2009 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted February 10, 2009 yellow belly ????? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 10, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 yellow belly ????? Usually occurs with a baby that hatches too early and doesnt properly process the eggsac. Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted February 10, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2009 crop this down for a BOM! you'd win!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment
shannon bird breeder 0 Posted February 21, 2009 Member ID: 4,671 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,386 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/09/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 24, 2011 Birthday: 12/09/1994 Share Posted February 21, 2009 hey kaz any new babys Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 21, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 hey kaz any new babys Where ? IN this nestbox or others ? Link to comment
shannon bird breeder 0 Posted February 21, 2009 Member ID: 4,671 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,386 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/09/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 24, 2011 Birthday: 12/09/1994 Share Posted February 21, 2009 hey kaz any new babys Where ? IN this nestbox or others ? ] of this pair and how are thay doing Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 21, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 hey kaz any new babys Where ? IN this nestbox or others ? ] of this pair and how are thay doing Read back through this topic Shannon...there are no other chicks or eggs to hatch and only one of the three chicks is theirs. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 22, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Of the three chicks in this nestbox, only one is theirs since they lost the plum eyed chick shortly after hatching. Of the two eldest in this nestbox, one is theirs and the other eldest and the youngest in the nestbox belongs to another pair... See if you can work out who belongs to who. Here is the two eldest chicks....... and the youngest chick and here is the other chicks from another nest who are siblings to two of these chicks. Parents of the nest of four ***************Is it possible the chick that died belonged to the other nestbox after all ?? Edited February 22, 2009 by KAZ Link to comment
shannon bird breeder 0 Posted February 22, 2009 Member ID: 4,671 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,386 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/09/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 24, 2011 Birthday: 12/09/1994 Share Posted February 22, 2009 i dont no but i like tham all lol good to see tham good older Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 It appears we have two opalines in the nestbox out of three, so assuming the chick that died was actually the chick from the other nestbox not the spangle nestbox then the two opalines would belong to the spangle pairing. The odd chick out is the grey spangle chick and since the other nestbox with four chicks is three grey green normals and one grey normal, I am thinking the grey spangle belongs to them. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I think it is a fair conclusion. If the normal cinnamon is from the normal opaline and greygrenn spangle pairing, then the chick that died may well have been the offspring of the greygreen spangle and normal opaline pairing I think you can say that the two green spangles in here are related. Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) There is no way to really tell. The DF spangle is grey green in any case, so there is no way to tell which chicks come from where as both hens are Opaline (one being opaline spangle) , both fathers are grey green spangles. Cinnamon in a hen will not show anything unless the cock is cinnamon (or split) You know the hen of the other nest is split blue as they have a grey chick already... but the spangle hen could also be split blue. So my conclusion is there is know way to tell... perhaps when the chicks mature you may see features from the parents show though on the chicks. I think your DF spangle pair are much nicer than the other pair, so should (in theory) have a nicer looking chick than the other two in the nest... Sorry i wasnt much help Edited February 23, 2009 by **Liv** Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 The DF spangle is grey green in any case Why is the DF grey green and how do you figure that out ? Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted February 23, 2009 The DF spangle is grey green in any case Why is the DF grey green and how do you figure that out ? I agree with Kaz's question. Are you confusing the young? If the grey was his offspring, i would say yes... he is a grey green and the hen is split blue, but the grey spangle is the offspring of the grey green spangle and the light green opaline, not the DF spangle. There is no way to tell if the DF spangle is a grey green or a normal green from any of these offspring. The only way to tell is is you paired him to a green hen and they produced a grey green chick. As it stands, he was paired to a light green cinnamon spangle, and they have produced 2 (yes, I am now saying two) green opaline spangles. Dad may be opaline or simply split, we do not know until we see the gender of the young ones. If they are opaline males, Dad is an opaline. If they are female, Dad is split. Unless one of the young turn out to be a grey green, there is no way to say he is a grey green. he may be, and just not passed on the grey gene this time. Until he sires a grey green chick with a green hen, no way to say he is grey green for sure. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Of the three chicks in this nest...none are grey green Possibly all hens Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted February 23, 2009 very cute. No grey greens, so no way to confirm that Dad is a grey green. remember the grey spangle is a foster. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Not sure yet what colour of green this one will be Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I give up for the night - will look again tomorrow when my eyes are fresh Link to comment
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