chrissy0705

I'm thinking Sky Blue with a possilbe Violet factor (but Violet is always hard to tell in pics). I think we need to see a picture of it's back (wing and tail feathers) to make a better determination. My guess, and this is just a guess, is An Opaline Greywing Sky Blue Hen??? I'm sure the more experienced members will correct me if I'm wrong, but that is my guess. I don't see the spangle markings... the wings seem more greywing then scalloped like a spangle would be.

I don't know that answer, but all I know is I WANT ONE !!!! Pretty birds.

I agree with everyone else... Albino, Creamino, or Lutino. in a few days it will probably look like this.... This is a Creamino and a Lutino.

I think you should name the little guy LEVI. I never liked the fit of Levi jeans and this little guy just has a poor "fit" to his beak. So my suggestion is Little Levi.

I too have many of these ring toys. I don't think I've really had a problem with any of them. The only time I saw any concern was when two keets were trying to climb at the same time. I was afraid their toes would get pinched between the rings, but it hasn't happened yet. I think you'll be okay with them... mine love them.

Thnak you KAZ. That being said... can you guys point out what you were saying about the "developement stages" on these pics? Show me which birds you feel are still too young to breed?

I agree with Elly on this... they love to peck at "anything" that is hanging through the bars of the cage... including toes. I rescued three finches that are all missing toes because they were allowed to fly free in the owners home and from landing on the other birds cages they lost toes. Always have the top of the cage covered or get a "play unit" that can set on top of the cage so it can be up there without direct contact with the birds below.

Mine is poetry... here's one I wrote about 6 years ago or so, but I still love it.... Just Me I look in the mirror to see what they see But all that appears are images of me… My eyes are not seductive and they are not deep Nor are they fountains for you to make weep My eyes are inviting to those who enquire That shine with laughter and close when they tire My body is not a perfect mold of clay Nor is it just for a romp in the hay My body is a shell that's meant to be dressed That loves to be held touched and caressed My hair is not a breath of fresh mountain air Nor is it reins for you to pull or to tear My hair is an expression of a simpler thing That flows through the air when pushed on a swing My lips are not screaming out to be kissed Nor do they mean to be harmful when pissed My lips are for me to speak my own mind That allows me to call out for someone to find My hands are not silk petals of a flower Nor are they used to harm or empower My hands are a greeting that will pull you near That will comfort your worries and push away fear My heart does not hold yours in a vice Nor is it cold just like ice My heart is mine for the world to share That does for others to show how I care … I am not what they all make me out to be I am nothing more or less… I'm JUST ME!

You can tell on some of them... this one you can tell all around. Size, color, cere, body structure.... he actually looks just like my new little green guy I hatched out. He is just now 6 weeks old.... Best of luck with him either way... he's a doll. A good name for him would be TINKER (like the tiny little "tinker" workers in the TinkerBell Movie. Just my suggestion. Good luck on the name search. (I have an Opaline Green Male named Tinker)

I join KAZ in welcoming you to the forum. Great looking birds. Enjoy.

Hi and welcome to the forum. Best of luck with your new feathered friends. Hope to see pics soon.

I agree with Neat and JB... get him checked out, espcially if you are keeping him. Its best for your existing birds, let alone finding out what his story is. Best of luck and keep us updated.

I agree with everyone else. 6-8 weeks for mine. The 6 oldest from my two clutches now are 6 - 7 weeks old and they will be going to their new homes next Friday. All are eating well on their own for a week now so I agree based on what's happening for me now.

Good for you. It's so exciting, isn't it? :cake: Keep us updated and as always love to see pics!!!

Gosh I wish I lived where I could have an outdoor avairy... I'm always so jealous when I see nice aviaries like this. Good for you, best of luck with it.

Great shots. I try to catch shots like that all the time, but always miss them... they are so pretty.

Welcome to the forum. Very nice birds. Enjoy. :cake:

As I stated in a previous comment I was going to post pics of the iris rings of the pairs I WAS HOPING to breed. I see everyone's point on the "developement of the iris ring" and not just the fact they have one. Can you (nicely) point out what birds seem "ready" and what ones don't and tell me why. In the future besides making sure they are 12 months old and have an iris ring, are there other signs I should look for to tell if they are ready? All my males, even Tex (although he looks young) are very attentive to the hens, feeding and preening, they explore the nest boxes first, bob thier heads, etc... All the hens pace frantically and follow the cocks all over the place, preen themselves, constantly chew the cuttle and mineral blocks, and are in and out of the nesting boxes, not to mention all the hens have been in and out of condition 2 times or more since I got them (all with very crusty brown or tan cere's)... are these not all signs they are "ready"? These are all the signs I've been watching for to make the choice to breed them all in the first place. Or is everyone saying the iris ring tells it all and that should be my marker to go by? So here goes... ???? 1. Hen, no leg band, bought April 08. Cock, no leg band, rescued June 08 owner had for 1 year before me. 2. Hen, 08 leg band, bought Feb 08. Cock, 00 leg band, bought Dec 07. 3. Hen, no leg band, bought from breeder Nov 08, proven pair had for 1 1/2 years before me Cock, no leg band, same info given as hen above 4. Hen, no leg band, also a rescue in Nov 08, at rescue for 6 months, previous owner told rescue they had this hen and cock for about 8 months. Cock, no leg band, same info as hen above. 5. Hen, 07 leg band, rescued in June 08, owner had for 1 year before me. Cock, no leg band, rescued in Nov 08, didn't know the his history exept he was at the rescue for 4 months. 6. Hen, 08 leg band, bought in Feb 08 Cock, 07 leg band, given as a gift in Dec 07 7. Hen, no leg band, rescued in Nov 08, no history besides at the rescue for 3 months Cock, no leg band, sam info as hen above 8. This is the pair I was questioning... and won't be breeding this time around. Hen Cock ** Please note all picture were taken with a flash in order to get the close up shots without blur**

Thank you so much all. This was a big help!!!!

Dave, Thank you for the reply and I appreciate the manner in which you have stated things. Taking a moment to choice your words makes all the difference on how someone takes things. I'm not going to beat this issue to death. My only point was that I know my birds, I know when I bought them and I know that 12 months is rule of thumb and it is frowned upon to breed any younger. I agree and understand what you are saying about "developementally ready to breed" rather than "age ready to breed". Honestly, I did not take that into consideration because I was just trying to make sure the 12 month rule was followed. If that is what KAZ was trying to say I think it could and should have been said in a manner that didn't require "insulting cartoons" to tell me off. I too do what's best for my birds and so far Liv has pointed out 2 pair that she feels "look" too young. I will reconsider those pairs based her opinion. You both very tactfully said what needed to be said and I can't help but wonder why she couldn't do the same. Instead of her saying the birds are too young, she could have pointed out what ones and why she thought so and I could understand them "looking" too young vs. "fighting to defend" that I'm not breeding underage birds. I respect everyone opinions on here, experts, beginners, etc... including KAZ, but I think it's more encouraging to those "less experienced" to be talked to like a human being instead of a piece of ****... and I feel the "cartoons" were just over the top and wrong of KAZ. Maybe I should just leave the site. I'm obviously too sensitve. I'm a naturally calm and compassionate person and I don't like being made to feel like this, all over asking a question. It's not worth the upset. Thanks Dave, I had no idea that could be done. I thought that maybe if the hen was small (pet style) that breeding with a larger bird (show style) the eggs would be too large to pass or something or if the cock was the pet style that he may have trouble mounting the hen since she was be so much larger. So thanks for the info. I'm gonna look over the change ups and see about re-pairing... I'd like to get a large variety of colors and mutations and knowing what to pair with what will help me get that. So thank you. and thank you again RIP for the suggestions.

RIP, thank you for the suggestions on re-pairing. I do have a question though. Most the pairs are pet style budgies and Henry and Liz are show budgies... you suggested pairing both of them with other birds, but can or should I do that? Can or should you breed a show budgies with a pet style budgie??? Just asking cause I've never seen or hear it before. Let me know. Thanks so much.

I have two Normal Dark Greens and two GF2 (sf) Cobalts... I can't tell boys from the girls can you tell me please. 1. 2. 3 and 4. (second shot, a little clearer, but not as good of a cere shot on the one bird) Your help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Thank you Liv. The first picture you say not to breed... the Albino was bought as a gift for me on December 23, 2007. So the Albino is definately over a year old. Probably born in November of 2007, he has an 07 leg band on his leg. The Sky Dom Pied in the picture with him I personally bought from Petco (along with another hen) on February 15, 2008, which means she was most likely born in January 2008, making her a year old this month, she has an 08 leg band on her leg. So she would also be a year old now. The second picture, is the pair I'm questioning as to their ages. I got them over the summer and was told they were 4-6 months old at the time. They don't have leg bands and I do agree with all who are concerned on this pair and will NOT be breeding this pair yet. JB, RIP, budgie88, Liv, and Neville (hope I didn't miss anyone else) thank you all for your advice and help answering the actual questions I asked. KAZ, I will ask that you not reply to any of my posts anymore. I'm tired of being "attacked" and "insulted" by you. Every post I have on here there is a comment from you that may have something positive in it, but always followed by something negative. I do the best I can in the best interest of all my birds. I come to this site for help and advice not to be told YOU KNOW what I have. As JB said I shouldn't have to post "proof" but I will be taking more pics and if I have to I will post my purchase receipts to show you when the birds where bought to "prove" their ages. So if it's something personal, then leave it that way, and stop slamming me every chance you get.

As I stated all pairs are over 12 months. The only pair I have doubt about is Sam and Tex. They both look younger to me. They have iris rings, but as KAZ asked, the iris is there, but they are more grey not crips white like my others. 4 of the pair I've personally owned since last December/January/February so I know they are a year or older. The show budgies pair I just got a month or so ago and I'm 99% sure they are both 2 years old or older. Fred and Wilma were a bonded pair that I got from a breeder. Pebbles and BamBam I don't know for sure, but they both have crisp clear iris. I can try to take good pics of the iris on all of them tomorrow or over the weekend if that will help assure everyone? Sam and Tex, I'm questioning at this point and may hold off on putting them down.

I am impressed. I've never seen a Dominant Pied bird with wing markings like this before. I've seen alot of white or yellow wings (clearwings) but never a pattern like this. That is a good looking bird. Good for you.