Dave_McMinn

I will, although it is nice to see that you understand what I mean.

Stop your cyring, here they are. In Earl's cage are his two fostered young. The cobalt Opaline Spangle is a hen, the DF spangle is a cock, his grey opaline son and his cinnamon wing opaline daughter. DF widow with the three offspring of hers in her cage. The DF spangle is a hen and the Cobalt Opaline Spangles are cocks Twitch and Earl only had one little one this time, but she is a beauty These are the eggs that belong to Bruticus and his Albino hen. I think three are fertile. We shall see. These are the little ones from the first clutch of my GreyGreen hen and my Dark Green Cock

I read your thread Nubbly and I think I experience the whole range of emotions - excitement in seeing such great birds, happiness for you to know you are producing these great birds, disappointment that your birds are of a standard I may never reach, delusionment and a questioning of what I am doing, and probably far too many other emotions to type here. No matter what my emotional range, keep those photos comings. They are great. Well done.

All things are possible

Kens home and was going to be working on the aviary, but we just heard his Dad ( who is in hospital ) now has renal failure and it will bring on a heart attack within 24 hours or less and he will die. There is nothing they can do as everything is failing. Heart, and he has pneumonia too, bladder cancer, osteomylitis, gangrene and infection in foot and leg...the list goes on. :nest: I am so sorry to hear this. I know what I went through with my own Dad earlier this year and his list of illnesses. I will keep ken and you in my prayers. Tell Ken I am thinking on him.

I will post any culls up here.

okay, that will clear up a lot. I am not sure. I would think that he/she is going to feather up into a normal green budgie. Not sure how you would get anything else

Can you give us a virtual tour? By this i mean, take a photo, then turn 90 degrees to the right, take another photo, then turn again, and so on, until we see it all.

Sure thing, no problem.

that is great, about the good looking spangle boy. Good news indeed. Glad to hear the others are doing well.

Sorry for your loss Deb.

Ran out of time today. Sorry. maybe tomorrow

Well done Libby. Gret footage, and pretty good nails

I am no expert, but I would also say cock.

Seems to be some confusion here. I think the question was initially asking about the green normal bird. That one is going to be a green normal. The other bird looks like a spangle. You said the parents were not spangles? Are you colony breeding or breeding in breeding cages? Is it possible, even if they are in cages, that the father of the spangle is not the same father as the green?

Update ime My Dark Green Cock and GreyGreen hen have 3 young. The eldest - the only one left witha ring on, is a green opaline, the other two are not opaline, just greens. Not sure on the dark factors yet. All 3 are lovely looking little things. I have removed nestboxes from 3 cages - the DF widow, Earl and Kiwi and Twitch. Kiwi and Twitch have an ocecream continr for their little non-opaline grey dommie pied hen. Earl has an ice cream container for his grey opaline cock and his cinnamon winged grey opaline hen offspring. No hatching yet form the Albino and Bruticus, but 4 of the 5 eggs look fertile - any day now hopefully. No sign of movement of egg laying from the Light green cock and the greygreen hen. to come later

I agree with Kaz. Buy from breeders. If you choose birds from their cages, then you stand a good chance of getting healthy birds. No breeder is going to want to expose their birds to sick birds, so they will not have these in the cages. When I went to Perth in January, Kaz was wonderful in regards to budgies. I had actually not planned on getting many, but came home with 29, and all but 2 from breeders.

All is well that ends well it seems. Can you do us a favour though Renee? Once they are fully feathered and gorwn, can you come back and post some pics that show us what they look like? I know that everytime I follow threads that see chicks grow, I like to see the "finished product", so to speak.

Hi there and welcome to the forum

There is that bond formed between some. I had a nestbox with two grey opaline cocks in it. Now they have matured and are in the aviary. They go everywhere together. I have never seen two birds, brothers or sisters, that are closer. It is very cute.

So what are YOUR final thoughts here Kaz? It is a hard one. I want to know about Splat's confused one as well now. It is funny as people post genetic guessing games on here, but this is the real thing.

GB - You are not wrong, it is a dominant pied, as Deb stated at the very beginning of this thread. The things you are wrong about are that HE is a cock bird, and HE is the cock bird in the only pair that has been successful in producing young. Is he too young? No. GB - I am not sure what you are reading, maybe you have your threads mixed up, but Deb never said he was recessive, he is not a hen, he is old enough, and he has three young. All the other pairs were not successful.

very good news

So do I. I feel guilty, like I gave you some duds!!!

There is nothing we can ever really do but hope for the best.