Dave_McMinn

okay, I took some new pics. The first ones are the parents, and then the chicks. I originally thought I might get two grey chicks. Seems I have one sky blue opaline and one violet cinnamon opaline. I think the cinnamon is definitely a hen, but the sky blue may be a cock. Hard to tell. I have to give it a few more days. I know that the grey father was split blue and split cinnamon. Parents Chicks together Violet opaline cinnamon wing sky blue opaline These are the three from the Dark Green Cock paired to the GreyGreen Hen. First clutch had the three below, 2nd clutch has 5 eggs so far.

It has been a little while since I took some aviary shots. I put soem fresh gum tree branches in the other day. Some like the leaves, but they wilt very quickly in the heat. Most love chewing the fresh branches, so it provides lots of entertainment in the cooler hours of the day. I also put in a big hanging water container with ice int he container so it would melt during the day and keep the water cool. I am sure the birds appreciated it. Lot of my little ones are growing up in there. Here's some pics. Grey on top perch and blue below I bred The blue spangle opaline boy again A rear shot of an opaline dommie pied girl I bred Two father and son pics of Dumb and his son, who is only 4 months old now or so. The son will fill out a lot more. More pics later, hopefully today.

Chick number 3 definitely looks like an opaline greygreen to me. Colony breeding?

I take offense at that male comment. I think........ not sure what I was typing, cool song came on the radio -

WOW, awesome post RIP. So let me see if I have this right. You can have single factor and double factor yellowface and golden face Both yellow face and golden face can by type I or II You can have a combination of Yellowface and goldenface. Golden face is where you ahve the richer, deeper brighter colour yellow face.

I think you have to look closer, at the individual egg, not the grand scheme of things. I would think that the more chicks are produced, the greater the chance of inaccuracy that the table could have.

Genetic tables just tell you what is possible. It is what is possible for each egg, not for the whole clutch. You have to keep that in mind. Using the second example you gave, 2 grey spangles together. Now we know that you have a 25% chance of normals, a 50% chance of single factor spangle, and a 25% chance of a DF spangle. This is the percentage for each egg. It is not like if the first one was a normal, then the percentages would change, they would still stay the same. People get frustrated about not wanting what they get. Until cloning and mutation assignment through science, it is all hit and miss. Do not be upset about the breeding tables, they are inanimate objects. They had no influence.

I am with Kaz. I think that the mutations are: 1. GreyGreen Normal 2. Opaline GreyGreen 3. GreyGreen Spangle 4. Sky Blue Normal 5. Sky Blue Spangle

don't all budgies look like that? any pics of ones that don't? shoudl we make this a new topic?

in normal sleeping times this is fine. If the birds are sleeping abnormally long amounts of time, they are fluffed up and seem very lethargic or inactive, there is something wrong. Usually by the time the bird displays thsi type of behviour, it may be too late. I would take your possibly sick bird to the vet, an avian vet. Is it not better to know. If there is something wrong they can treat it, and if there is nothing wrong, then you feel a lot better.

What is the keyhole effect?

The hot weather kaz was talking about was January this year. It was hot in Sydney and hot in Perth. Not my fault, I did not bring the bad weather. I did put ice cubes in the drinkers, as Kaz was saying. It was necessary, and the birds loved it. No illness resulted, and I am sure it save some lives. We have some really hot days coming up here. I have half filled some 2 litre ice cream containers and put them in the freezer. I am going to put them in some hanging water containers with one hanging, and the other on the ground. I am going to put tap water in each, plus a block of ice in each, that will melt throughout the day, but also keep the water cool.

Are you shadeclothing the roof to keep it cool in those hot perth summers?

Great ladder Splat. By the way, when am I getting my spangles from you? I have always loved spangles, and yours are great so...?

Glad to see Thundra, moulting or not. It had come along well Kaz. Look how clean the floor is. Get a picture of that - LOL.

it looks great Kaz. Can you take a picture that shows us the set up from a distance? Think backdoor then one every 4 or so metres as you get closer

Well you cannot get away from the fact the the Dominant varieties are the building blocks for your stud- yes you can argue that anyone can breed a Normal, Spangle, Dommie Pied, Opaline or Cinnamon ... but can they breed a really good one? :rofl: And it's these building blocks that you will come to rely on as you strive to breed and improve upon your "favorite" varieties Well said. I think this is something that young breeders need to be hear. Breed the best birds you can in appearance, the normals, then look at breeding the variations. That is my aim.

I never liked Greens, but they are really growing on me. Like Kaz once said to me "You come to love what you didn't like" I once loved the fancy varities and disliked normal birds. I never liked dommie pieds. Now, I love the basics, love my greens and my greys, even love the dommie pieds.

Well done Renee.

Steps 1 and 2 in the hot weather plan. Step 1 - put a cover up over the breeding room to take the sun off the roof. It is raised about 30cm off the roof, so a cool breeze can blow thru there and keep the breeding aviary cooler. Step 2 - I have opened my shade umbrella over the aviary, on one side. This means that the mornimg sun will still get he aviary, but very little afternoon sun will land on the roof. I am also going to put some shade cloth up. I will do that tomorrow. And this is why we do it. The two offspring of Bruticus and the albino hen - both hens I think - an opaline grye cinnamon wing and an opaline sky blue normal. The 2nd clutch of my Dark Green Cock (split opaline) and his GreyGreen hen - 4 eggs so far - too early to tell if fertile or not. The kindy cage - the dark green cocks and the greygreen opalineare from the above pairing. The rest you have all seen before.

I think that the majority of our days are going to be hot Liv. I am just not plannign to breed in the middle of it. That might change, we will see what type of summer we have I am disappointed losing two good birds, but not discouraged

Welcome to the forum. I, like many others, look forward to seeing pics of your birds.

I mean what colour the ino gene has removed. I would also conclude that she is masking sky blue, as to get a sky blue chick, then she must not be blue, not grey. Lost two birds either overnight or very early this morning. Two hens. Two 08 hens. The hens from the photos below. No visible signs of injury, all I can conclude is that the heat got to them. I had covered the aviaries today, putting a tarp 30cm above the breeding room, and opening a large shade umbrella above the aviary, in an effort to keep them cool. I removed the surviving partners (the cocks) and put them back in the aviary. I am not going to let bruticus and the albino have another clutch. Once they raise these two, they will be rested and returned to the aviary. My greygreen hen and the dark green cock have 4 new eggs. I will keep a very close eye on them. The good news is that they are not in one of the highest breeding cages, so the heat will be more bearable. I have also removed the wooden openings on the nestbox and replaced them with wire, to allow the chicks and the hens to be cooler in there. No breeding over summer, it will just get too hot. I am planning on fixing my aviary over january, returning it to its rightful spot once I have layed a new slab there, so I will use the breeding aviary as temporary storage for birds when I am moving the aviary back into position. :fingerscrossed: to come of the two little ones in bruticus and the albino's nestbox.

Well done. They all look lovely.

you were right, these do look good.