Dave_McMinn

Apart from watchign them 24/7, there is litte you can do. I would think if a baby tried to get into another nestbox, there woudl be major objections from another pair. I think this would scare teh youngster off.

It has reall come along well. Congrats. Liv is headed back your way?

Just an update. What I thought was originally 2 greys in the nest of Bruticus and the albino now looks to be two opalines, one is sky blue, one is grey. The father of the Bruticus (grey) were a sky blue and a grey green. Not sure about the Albino Hen.

Thanks Nubbly for picking me up on that little bit. I meant to say Opaline that is split Cinnamon. Well done RIP. I am bad at the whole dilute or greywing thing. Some greywings have diluted body colour, others do not, so it is hard to tell. I am still learning here.

Yay me

I am well aware that you CAN get Double Factor pieds, but it means pairing one SF with another SF, or a SF with a DF. If you look at the pics of the parents he has posted, the cock on the left is not a pied, therefore pairing a DF dom pied with any bird that is not a dom pied will only result in SF pieds. In actual fact when I go back and think about it, judging by the offspring that have resulted, the DF hen is no a DF hen at all, but rather a SF. If she was a DF, then all the young would be SF dom pieds. So taking that into consideration, breeding a YF2 Sky Cobalt Greywing Cock that is split opaline to a poorly marked SF Dom Pied hen that is split blue and is split greywing (maybe dilute) will result in the offspring you have.

It is a recessive pied, it is a cinnamon, and the green is either a dark green or olive. I am going to go for olive. Therefore, I say you have an Olive Green Cinnamon Recessive Pied Cock.

This is how you do it. You have a Yellow Faced 2 Greywing Opaline Blue Cock and a double factor green dominant pied hen. Your hen is split blue as well split greywing. This means that the hens will all be opaline. Your YF1 might end up a YF2 after its first moult. Your DF pied might just be a badly marked SF pied. If the cock is not pied, and he does not look to be, there is no way that you can get a DF dom pied. One parent must have a Dark factor. From the pics, i would say the cock. It is not noticeable as his greywing dilutes it.

I decided to do a big photo catch up, so this may take a few entries in here. Currently in the breeding room we have: Dark Green Cock and a GreyGreen Hen Clutch 1: GreyGreen Opaline Hen, 2 Dark Green Cocks Clutch 2: 1 egg so far Albino Hen and Grey Cock (Bruticus) - Despite the hend being experienced, she has plucked the down off the little ones. I have given her some millet to chew and we will see how that goes. Clutch 1: 2 chicks that look opaline and are yet to be sexed New pair 1: Opaline GreyGreen Hen and GreyGreen Spangle Dominant Pied Cock New Pair 2: Light Green Cock (previously with the egg eater) and a Cinnamon Light Green Hen Kindy Cage: 2 DF spangle Hens, 1 Sky Blue Violet Opaline Spangle Hen, 2 Sky Blue Violet Opaline Spangle Cocks, 1 Grey Dominant Pied Hen, 1 Opaline Grey Cock and 1 Cinnamon Opaline Grey Hen. Some of the little ones in the aviary now

that is good.

How are they for size Kaz? I know the previous clutch was a little tiny, well at least one. What about these guys?

Our birds looks great -

Pleased to hear he is on the mend.

The three young in with the dark green and the greygreen hen are all doing well and later this week they will be moving to the kindy cage. The hen has layed her first egg in her second clutch, so that is very exciting. Bruticus and his albino hen have 2 young, and they both look like Opalines, and I hope they are both not hens. Funny, when you want hens, you can never buy them, now I cannot stop breeding them. The hens in the two new pairs I paired up the other day have both been in checking out the nestboxes. It is a very good sign. So far, only 4 of the 9 breeding cages are being used. Once the moulting is all over, some new pairs will go down. I will post some new pair combinations soon to get feedback, as well as updating you all with some of the current young ones.

I have never personally used it msyelf, but I know a very good breeder in WA that I visited that used to cut stems off his aloe plant and put it in the water feeder. His birds were always in excellent condition.

I willl look forward to seeing their development

Relax and do not "over-check" on them. Comments like "I took it out" make me wonder why. If the mum is feeding it, and you can tell this by looking, then leave it alone. If you want the hen to abandon the chicks, then keep checking constantly, as that will stress her.

You have to remember it is not 18 days after the first one is layed, it is 18 days since incubation begins. There is not much you can do. I am not sure what the brown spots mean but if I was you, I would not do anything but wait. This is the hardest period, waiting for the eggs to hatch, and being so close. the more anxious you are, the more you will check, the more you wills tres the hen, the worse results you will achieve. Relax, stress less, and see what happens.

It is hard to tell, but I think.......... Baby1 is female Baby 2 is male baby 3 is male

So you stll have this hen? If you do, any pics of her now? Glad to see you gave her a fighting chance. Well done. The story is my favourite bit.

It will be interesting to see how the young turn out.

Your greywings are looking great Kaz. You must be happy with them

Just a quick update. HSC marking means I do not get anywhere as much time to play in the aviary as I would like. All kids in the kindy cage are going well. They will be headed into the aviary in about 2 weeks I think. All 3 young ones from my Dark Green and Grey Green pairing are now at the perching stage. The GreyGreen Hen is ready to lay again, she is "preparing" the nestbox all the time. I expect the first egg very soon. My opaline greygreen hen who is paird with my GreyGreen Spangle Dominant Pied Cock is yet to check out the nextbox. She might be a littl unsure fo what to do. She will get it. The light green cinnamon wing hen that I paired with the Light green cock (that was previously paired with the egg eater) has been in the nestbox and moved the shavings around, so that is a good sign. Bruticus and the Albino hen have 2 young, both are rung, and they are growing well. They will both be normal greys, and if cocks, split Albino. the eldest looks to be an opaline, so I am leaning towards the chick being female. It is possible that a split opaline cock could could be paired with an albino and produce an opaline cock?

They do look very cute. Does Mum have red eyes? It is hard to tell in the pics, but is she a Double factor spangle or an albino?

The argument for UV light is concerned with Vitamin D as I understand. Natural lighting is the best. Lighting that is not inhibited or has to pass through plastic or glass, as this lessons the benefits of the light. You can provide Vitamin D in different ways, such as through products added to the drinking water. If you are breeding them inside then the water additivies are a must. You can also buy some UV lights that generate UVA and B. You can purchase these from a shop that caters to reptiles. These globes are more expensive than regular globes, but the benefits can be very good. I have one of these in my breeding room. The bigger the room, the more that are needed.