Dave_McMinn

Very cute. So in micky and Softy's babies, the first one does not look like an opaline, but will look like dad otherwise, you can say it is a baby boy YF2 right? Mum is a greywing clearflight pied? Is that right? Babies 2 and 3 certainly look like pieds. they have their Dad's colour, with the yellow pins on tail, but they look pied to me as well

Very cute Kaz. Any guesses on colours? All 3 look to be pieds to my untrained eyes. Spangles? I can never tell. The pied thing throws me out every time.

It depends on how it works. At times I have had to seperate the mothers from the chicks to stop her wanting to lay eggs again, I have had to seperate the fathers to stop them attacking, I have even had to remove a young chick herself as they were both attacking her. She has already learnt to crack seed, so she was fine. In an ideal situation, I close off the nest box, and feed them up well. I often move the little ones to their own cages to let them socialise with others and play. I let the parents build up theit strength before i return them to the aviary. I give them all some holiday time to let them get stronger, then I move them.

Where are the pics? As an aural learner, it is hard enough to learn by reading, but no pics here Kaz? You are killing me!!!

Welcome, look forward to pics!

Hi Bev, welcome. Great Photos. Looking forward to more

Got a photo of that Kaz?

thanks. I am guessing Butterwick is up that way?

Where was this guy at? He have many to sell?

To anyone who knows about Budgie Clubs, some general questions 1) I live near Liverpool in NSW, what would be the nearest clube to join? 2) Do all budgie clubs sell birds at their general meetings? 3) If you suggested an answer for 1, do you know if that club does what was asked in question 2? 4) How much does membership cost? What are the benefits? 5) Anyone recommend some good breeders in NSW they have dealt with who regularly offload some birds? Thanks

I was thinking about some of your suggestings. Yes, the TCB spangle would look cool. To me the cinnamon is at its most dramatic on a blue based bird, rather than a green based bird. I was thinking what if you bred a TCB clearwing, and the more I thought about it, i realised that it would just look like a DEC- (Laughing out loud). I love the idea of producing birds that are not shown. For example, the anthracite is not shown. Does that mean it would be bad to have them? No way. Keep going with the TCB variations I say. Thanks for the pics.

Love that first bird. Question, are most TCB's Opalines, or is it just these 2? I am not overly partial to the opaline mutation, and others love it. Your opinion as a breeder of TCB's?

No, Sebby is not a spangle. She is very diluted, more so than most other fallows I have ever seen. That is why I and others have specualted that she may be a cinnamon fallow, rather than just a normal fallow, if there is even such a thing as a normal fallow - (Laughing out loud)

Sure Nerwen. Here are some pics, these are the best I have got at the moment, might be able to get better shots over the next few days. If she was a spangle, shouldn't she have a white tail?

No problems with the wind. There is fencing on 2 sides, so although the aviary does not sit right on the fence, it is still protected from the wind somewhat. No saftery door is a good observation. I have experimented with different options. I have tried the bird netting on the outside. I attached some hooks, and attached the netting to a pole, so when I want to go into the aviary, I just put the bird netting up. problem was the netting always caught on the door, got very frustrating. No close calls so far, well nothing of significance anyway. Birds usually retreat to the other end of the aviary when I go in, and I ensure they are at the other end when I am leaving. Regardless of this, it is only a matter of time until something goes wrong, so I have actually begun planning my safety door. I have drawn up some plans, bought the brackets, as well as the srews, etc. I just need to buy the metal framing, as well as the hinge, then all will be good. The biggest problem I have is that the current door swings out. I am going to have to reverse that, or that safety door area will need to be massive.

That is the thing isn't it? You can never be 100% sure of what you are going to get. To me, the most exciting part of the breeding is when they begin feathering up. When you look in a nest box, look at a little one, and say "How the *** did that happen?"

Norm, Am I sure the Fallow is cinnamon? No. But Kaz and I were discussing her the other day, and comparing her to other fallows. Not only is she very brown, her cheek patches are brown, and she is very diluted. It is entirely possibly, and there is no real way to know this unless I breed her with a male cinnamon, and they produce cinnamon boys, that she is cinnamon or not. At this stage, it is an educated guess.

try to intoduce it slowly, sprinkle some seed over it, so they will eat the seed of the new food, and then proceed to try the new food. Be persistent. Budgies are curious things, they will explore. Put it in a big open dish, sprinkle well with seed and leave there for them to try. As for the euclypt branch, that is good. they love stripping it. If it is a fresh branch, you might find little chew marks on the branch as well. Don't be disheartened. Keep trying

hey everyone. I am looking at breeding a cinnamon violet fallow to a yellow face type II recessive pied. Both genes are recessive. What might I get? Below are pics of the pair

Thanks Nerwen and Kaz for bringing these together

I have no idea - (Laughing out loud) How do you tell the difference? That was the next question I was going to throw out there. Anyone?

The only thing I can think of is that Sebby was not the best mother. She seemed to raise the young, all 5, then when she was ready to breed again, she wanted them out of the way. I removed her from the cage and left Dad Romeo to finish raising the young. Maybe this seperation, along with Romeo Jr.'s loverly active libido, has affected his perceptions of Sebby - (Laughing out loud).

Venus' sister of the injured leg fame Pegasis Aphrodite Sunshine Romeo Kaui and Pagasis Little Butternut Sunshine Kealani Romeo Jr. and some mixed shots

Nibbler with Independence Independence on her own Indpendence's sister Tralia The other sister of the clutch Kaui (a recessive pied) Kaui with Aphrodite Aphrodite next to her Mother Milly and Angel Angel with some others around Aphrodite's sister Venus

Well, it has been a while since I updated the pics of my flock, so I took some. The aviary setup is pretty much the same. Avairy in the yeard looks like this okay, so here we go Lord Humphrey, ruler of the aviary Lord Humprhey with his Queen Sherbert Humphrey and Sherbert with the clown Hugo Sherbert and Hugo Hugo on his own (yes his, as a pied, his cere makes it tough to determine his sex, but he has demonstrated - through sex, that he is male) Sherbert again, but this time she is joined by a new couple in the avairy, Sebby (a Violet, cinnamon Fallow) and Cheese (a Yellow Face type II Skye blue Dominant Pied) Cheese and Sebby, though this time with Athena at the back Cheese's sister Macaroni on her own and with Hugo and Nibbler Nibbler on his own