Dave_McMinn 0 Posted March 28, 2011 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Yesterday was the BRASEA auction at Revesby in NSW. This is an annual event that has birds up for auction from mainly NSW breeders, but also some breeders from Interstate such as Harro from ACT, Ken Dunk from Qld and a few others. Always a large auction, there were 365 birds registered for auction and prices rnaged from $10 upto about $750. John Hewitts DF Spangles and Albinos seemed to be the most popular item, with his success as the national last year helping to push his prices up. There were some very good birds there and no one who purchased a bird could have been disappointed. I went looking for a few good birds, but was not going to spend hundreds on anyone bird. The only bird that I bid anything over $200 was a Geoff and Ann Hand Cinnamon Grey Opaline Hen 2010 bird that went for $300, and a dommie pied version that went for $525. I prefered the $300 bird, but it was too expensive for me. I bought a number of birds, with quite a few cinnamon birds I noticed. A few from Geoff and Ann Hand, a Hewitt, a few from Cliff Cameron, a Gregoriou, (Gregoriou and Hewitt are based on Scoble Bloodlines and I already have a few from Hewitt and Gregoriou) and a nice Troy Holmes (SA) Hen. I have some pics so I will write where they are from as well as their details. 1. Lot # 17 - 09 Cinnamon Violet Skyblue Hen from Cedic D'Costa (back Bird) 2. Lot #72 - 10 Cinnamon Sky Hen from Cliff Cameron (middle bird) 3. Lot #73 - 10 Cinnamon Grey Cock from Cliff Cameron 4. Lot #79 - 09 Albino Hen from Joe Elias 5. Lot #98 - 10 Cinnamon Sky split Lacewing from Wall Capper 6. Lot #105 - 10 Cinnamon Sky Hen from Cedic D'Costa Photo to come 7. Lot #210 - 10 Grey Opaline Spangle Hen from Troy Holmes - (back bird) 8. Lot $246 - 08 Normal Green Hen from Cliff Cameron - (a sleeping shot) 9. Lot #277 - 08 Light Green Normal Cock bred by Greg Gregoriou 10. Lot #280 - 10 White DF Spangle bred by John Hewitt 11. Lot #356 - 10 Sky Cinnamon Cock by Cliff Cameron (back right bird) 12. Lot 244(I think) - 10 Normal Cobalt by Luxton & Reeve - $10 bird for my nephews (front bird) So all up it was a long day, especially for the birds. The birds were a bit tired and stressed so the shots are not the best. I will get better shots in the future, but overall there were some nice birds there. Will these birds dominate my breeding program? No. They are stock birds, but the blue and cinnamon are needed in my aviary, so we will see where this goes. I know the idea of keeping bloodlines together, and I am mainly doing that. I just noticed that these are the first pics I have loaded up this year. Shame on me. Many mor epics in many more threads to come. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted March 28, 2011 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Well done Dave Link to comment
Twisted 0 Posted March 28, 2011 Member ID: 6,621 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 188 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/03/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 27, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Picture 5 looks like a hen. Can't be split lacewing. Nice birds, well done. Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted March 28, 2011 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 You are right - I put the pics in wrong in my mad haste to start this thread in the five spare minutes i had today. I will fix this when I get time later tonight. Thanks Twisted - seems i have my Lot#'s and pics, all..........twisted - LOL!!! I can see why YOU noticed - LOL!!!! Link to comment
Twisted 0 Posted March 28, 2011 Member ID: 6,621 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 188 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/03/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 27, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2011 you did well putting the pics up. Very nice looking hen as well. Was it a good turn out of people ? Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted March 28, 2011 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) some nice pick ups dave Edited March 28, 2011 by GenericBlue Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted March 28, 2011 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 okay, I will try again 1. Lot # 17 - 09 Cinnamon Violet Skyblue Hen from Cedic D'Costa (back Bird) 2. Lot #72 - 10 Cinnamon Sky Hen from Cliff Cameron (middle bird) 3. Lot #73 - 10 Cinnamon Grey Cock from Cliff Cameron 4. Lot #79 - 09 Albino Hen from Joe Elias 5. Lot #98 - 10 Cinnamon Sky Cock split Lacewing from Wally Capper (front bird) 6. Lot #105 - 10 Cinnamon Sky Hen from Cedic D'Costa 7. Lot #210 - 10 Grey Opaline Spangle Hen from Troy Holmes - (back bird) 8. Lot $246 - 08 Normal Green Hen from Cliff Cameron - (a sleeping shot) 9. Lot #277 - 08 Light Green Normal Cock bred by Greg Gregoriou 10. Lot #280 - 10 White DF Spangle bred by John Hewitt 11. Lot #356 - 10 Sky Cinnamon Cock by Cliff Cameron (back right bird) 12. Lot 244(I think) - 10 Normal Cobalt by Luxton & Reeve - $10 bird for my nephews (front bird) okay, I think that is right now. As for the turn out, it looked a little down, however I was speaking to a few people from the ACT who had made the trip up. One thing I really found disappointing was that the breeders of some birds were there and when their bird came up for auction, they bid on the their own bird. If they win, it costs them nothing, and they can really push up the bid of their bird in a way that I personally think is unfair. A friend of mine stated that once he sees a person bid on their own bird, he will not bid on any bird of theirs. I agree with that. That is a rule I think that needs to be changed. Have the owner put in a bid if they want, but only one bid per bird. Not every second bid. If they want to keep their birds and sell them at a certain price, do not put them in an auction that has a reserve of $10. Link to comment
splat 0 Posted March 28, 2011 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Some nice birds Dave, they may go well in your breeding. Like to see them more relaxed like you said. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted March 28, 2011 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted March 28, 2011 the troy Holmes bird i like Link to comment
Amy S 0 Posted March 28, 2011 Member ID: 5,666 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 601 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,375 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/10/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 1, 2022 Birthday: 23/04/1982 Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) John's DF and Troy's Spangle I looooove! Troy has some amazing birds - he had a YF Sky Violet spangle that I really wanted but it went waaay out of my price range (this was last year when I got my DF hen). Troy has shown me a few of his birds and they are wow! Shame I missed the Auction this time - oh well there will be others! Well done on purchasing some beauties Dave! I'm sure they will do well for you! Edited March 28, 2011 by Amy S Link to comment
Taboo 0 Posted March 28, 2011 Member ID: 5,913 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 362 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 20, 2014 Birthday: 08/05/1969 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Nice pics dave. And I agree mate about the owners bidding. Link to comment
macka 0 Posted March 28, 2011 Member ID: 3,383 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,136 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 31, 2012 Birthday: 24/06/1948 Share Posted March 28, 2011 That is the way the vender gets there reserve price at an unreserved Auction. They bid on the birds or organise,for someone else to do the bidding. How do you think,that some birds go for so high prices.They have some one running them up to the price they want. Link to comment
Twisted 0 Posted March 29, 2011 Member ID: 6,621 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 188 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/03/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 27, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I saw the same in Melbourne a few years back. it was just 1 top breeders selling his birds. There was a guy who sat at the front, and pushed every single bird to beyond $100. I was only an observer but couldn't help wondering, why not just start the bidding at $100. Probably wouldn't have sold as many as people tend to get into a bidding frenzy. ( Me included, EBAY addict ) . Just seemed pointless to begin bidding at $20 when you knew that you wouldn't get it for under $100. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted March 29, 2011 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted March 29, 2011 In most auctions its accepted practice that a seller will bid his bird up to his reserve price only and not beyond. Some do not follow those rules. Link to comment
macka 0 Posted March 29, 2011 Member ID: 3,383 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,136 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 31, 2012 Birthday: 24/06/1948 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I saw the same in Melbourne a few years back. it was just 1 top breeders selling his birds. There was a guy who sat at the front, and pushed every single bird to beyond $100. I was only an observer but couldn't help wondering, why not just start the bidding at $100. Probably wouldn't have sold as many as people tend to get into a bidding frenzy. ( Me included, EBAY addict ) . Just seemed pointless to begin bidding at $20 when you knew that you wouldn't get it for under $100. A good Auctioneer would know that & would have it at $100 in very quick time & it would draw the bidders in,you have to work the punters & keep them on there toes. I have been to some drawn out Budgie Auctions & have left,because the the Auctioneer, is hopeless . Link to comment
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