this has been on the news a lot latley in the uk its now in russia and the experts say will without doubt end up in europe the dutch are allready telling farmers to keep there birds indoors even free range now just a little reminder to people in the uk that a lot of pet budgies come from belgium and holland and although it is not there yet please be carefull if you purchase a bird from a pet shop although we will not be able to stop it due to wild birds bringing it in also another thought people will need to be prepared with outside flights im not trying to be an alarmist here but as the main treatment appears to be to kill the birds in an effected area i dont know what it might mean to people with outside flights

A very important thread to start hath.

I do think there is every possibility that it will arrive here I'm afraid.

Julie

I believe health care workers are being vaccinated already.

i haven't heard about health workers getting vaccinated Julie - where did you hear that?

gesh, thats scarey!

I believe health care workers are being vaccinated already.

 

they have started to stock pile the vaccines and health care workers will be one of the first in line for it that great that means another injection

When I hear about dreadful things like this, I am so thankful that West Aust is so isolated. It means we have really, really strict quarantine laws, but we also can stop most of these diseases from entering our state. However, if people can pass it back to birds, that's something we can't stop. It's absolutely awful

It's not really the case if it will come to the U.K, more like when!

This sounds scary...I wonder when it will finally reach Canada. Sigh.

When I hear about dreadful things like this, I am so thankful that West Aust is so isolated.  It means we have really, really strict quarantine laws, but we also can stop most of these diseases from entering our state.  However, if people can pass it back to birds, that's something we can't stop.  It's absolutely awful

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does west australia have migrating birds that come from asia? that is how it will spread across Europe. as the migrating birds travel east from Russia. that is something nobody has control over and why it is likely to go worldwide eventually if scientists cannot come up with a way to contain it, or if the virus mutates and can be passed from human to human.

I hadn't thought of that Pixie. That means it is practically unstoppable. How awful

I guess the only known way to be sure your safe is to barcade yourselves in with your birdies till its all over and that we know is impossible. I guess we hope and pray its one of those things that dont turn out as worse as first thought.

I guess the only known way to be sure your safe is to barcade yourselves in with your birdies till its all over and that we know is impossible. I guess we hope and pray its one of those things that dont turn out as worse as first thought.

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I heard that the bird flu is being carried by seagulls and I live right by the sea here in Essex!!! So thats dscary. Gladmy birds are inside but I have a friend with two pet chickens in her garden. I hate to think what might happen.

this has been on the news a lot latley in the uk its now in russia and the experts say will without doubt end up in europe the dutch are allready telling farmers to keep there birds indoors even free range now just a little reminder to people in the uk that a lot of pet budgies come from belgium and holland and although it is not there yet please be carefull if you purchase a bird from a pet shop although we will not be able to stop it due to wild birds bringing it in also another thought people will need to be prepared with outside flights im not trying to be an alarmist here but as the main treatment appears to be to kill the birds in an effected area i dont know what it might mean to people with outside flights

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I work in a pet shop i think you do have to be be careful but saying this could be bad for some pet shops i buy in baby birds from local breeders who donot buy birds from abroad and if people do want to buy bird from pet shop just ask where they come from so that the pet shops do not suffer in the result of people being scared.

I read that it could not spread (as of now) from human to human, just from bird to human. So what would be the point of vaccinating health care workers?

The UK has stocked up vaccines for 1/4 of the population, and the US for less than 1/10.

Sydney, Australia, from predictions, is the safest city. The projected death rate ( ) is about 1/4 of all of the other major cities documented.

I work in a pet shop i think you do have to be be careful but saying this could be bad for some pet shops i buy in baby birds from local breeders who donot buy birds from abroad and if people do want to buy bird from pet shop just ask where they come from so that the pet shops do not suffer in the result of people being scared.

you must work in quite a small shop not a superstore unfortunatly a lot of small shops have closed now and are replaced with the big superstores who refuse to disclose where there stock comes from (probably because most of it is from abroad) i have only once seen budgies in a superstore with a english ring on most times without one so these shouldnt be touched at all

I read that it could not spread (as of now) from human to human, just from bird to human. So what would be the point of vaccinating health care workers?

it could quite easily mutate so far only a few have died but if it did mutate you could be talking millions dead in weeks if people are sick who are the people who look after them care workers

What I've heard is here in Australia, they've got enough stockpiles of Tamiflu (that drug that helps with symptoms of bird flu) for health workers for about six weeks. Sounds about the same in the UK.

 

Yeah, like Lin said, we have strong quarantine laws, federally as well. But yes, nothing is stopping a bird migrating, and carrying the disease. Slightly gladder that I'm not in Darwin, heaps gladder I'm not in Asia. But obviously they're fighting a tough battle, and good on the Aus. Govt. for giving Indonesia more doses of Tamiflu.

 

Well, if we want a slightly optimistic outlook, at least birds and humans won't *all* be wiped out. The reason for this: genetic variation . Drugs can only stretch so far, and, over time (probably quite quickly since viruses reproduce so quickly), the virus could mutate and become resistant anyway.

does anyone know how long the incubation period is so we can extend quarenteen periods if needed?

ATD

Very worrying to hear that a case of bird flu has been found in Europe.

where in europe julie?

 

they now know that the bird flu virus is now resistant to the very drug that countries have stockpiled to combat an outbreak. resistance is growing and at more than 70% in china. i also read that the virus 'mostly' transfers from bird to human - implying that no one is sure if it has already mutated. some young girls in indonesia have come down with a mystery case of the virus and where they caught it from is unclear.

I can't believe how quick this is all spreading.

Romania and maybe Turkey.

Big problems

 

read the following news articles

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/birdflu/0,14207,1131431,00.html

 

I fear it won't be long before it gets to Germany and then all *** will break out as that's where most of the imports come from, then the UK is sure to get it.

still dont know if its the h5n1 virus we find out on wednesday after the test are done

Lets hope it's negative.

 

But I still fear it is just a matter of time before it gets here.

with out a doubt sooner than later i see some boffin in the usa has grown the last flu strain to kill millions spanish flu to try and understand the virus