I also have a question about the proper dose of Ivermectin for budgies. One of your posts said this:

 

"The Ivermectin we have in Australia is different, the one we can get here is a pour on for cattle, it’s 10mg/mL it doesn’t contain Slippery Elm. We just put one drop on the skin & that’s enough…it lasts in the body something like 21 days. If it’s made especially for birds I would just follow the instructions & I would agree with Nerwen, I think the skin dose would be more effective, as if water doesn’t taste good Budgies may not drink for some days."

 

The only Ivermectin that I could find here in Kingston Ontario Canada is the one for cattle-same as above-1ml/10mg of ivermectin. I also bought a diabetic syringe to draw the dropps out, which is a very small needle-3/10cc. I wish I knew if a drop of this is correct because I don't want to cause my budgies any more agony than what they're going through with this awfull infestation. Can someone help me with this question? Is a drop of this okay or do I have to dilute it? Thank you. By the way, I grew up in Australia.

Last time i took my guy to the vet to get treated fro scaley face, the vet had a giggle cos he had to make up the solution from the livestock stuff... he said he had to mix it up to a solution of something like 1ml ivermectin to a litre of whatever it is they mix it in... then put 1ml of all of that onto the bird! So the poor guy had to make up a whole litre for my one budgie! Anyway, he sent me home with the second dose of 1ml for me to apply to Smokey myself a week later.

My vet gave me a whiole bottle which went off before I used it all! Worth the consultation if you ask me.

Ivermectin solution for budgies is mixed at a rate of 1% and one drop is placed on the back of the bird's neck. When I needed some our local non-avian vet didn't know anything about it but after I explained it he looked it up and mixed some for me. It didn't cost much

Hi there. I'm very worried about my little Kiwi and I'm soooo confused about this ivermectin. I have no access to it and can only find the kind for cattle. There is no avian vet in my town so I don't know who to turn to. I would love to get my hands on a little of it somewhere. Would you be able to send me a little? However, I live in Kingston, Ontario Canada, so I don't know if it's possible. If not I will understand.

Edited February 19, 200916 yr by **Liv**

Do you have a current photo of Kiwi so we can gauge the scaly face and we may be able to give you alternative treatments.

 

We are unable to post ivermectin as its flammable.

You should be able to buy SCATT on the internet in Canada.

 

 

http://www.ladygouldianfinch.com/shopping_health-pest.mgi

Edited February 19, 200916 yr by KAZ

Thanks Kaz. Is Scatt the same as Ivermectin?

Thanks Kaz. Is Scatt the same as Ivermectin?

Yes

The Ivermectin we have in Australia is different, the one we can get here is a pour on for cattle, it's 10mg/mL it doesn't contain Slippery Elm. We just put one drop on the skin & that's enough…it lasts in the body something like 21 days. If it's made especially for birds I would just follow the instructions & I would agree with Nerwen, I think the skin dose would be more effective, as if water doesn't taste good Budgies may not drink for some days.

 

 

Hi Norm, this is the one I bought here in Canada. This is the only one I could find. I thought it would be too strong for budgies. Did you use it on budgies? I have the injectable one in a 50ml bottle. Is this the same as yours?

Sofia, could you please post a picture of your budgie with the scaly face. I would err on the side of caution with anything injectable. Its very easy to overdose using injection and should only be done by an avian vet.

Ivermectin is not very soluble in water. It all sinks to the bottom and when the bird drinks they get a smaller dose than they should or none at all. So use the spot on instead.

i dont know why you dont just use parafin oil for now you buy it in the chemist and just dip into with a ear bud cover all efected areas for four days morn and night then again few weeks later for four days again then repeat treatment in six months to kill new hatched mite as eggs dont die with this treatment how ever if you only need to do it till vet gets back i would treat with parafen oil just till then least will kill the adult ones as it suffercates the mite

just a thought

Use the one drop to the back of the neck, seperating the feathers so it contacts the skin. There is never a reason to do it once a day for 5 days..once always works with mine.

i use the drop type

but i thought she didnt know how to mix it or something and was afraid to do wrong thing why i sugested parrofin till vet got back

but if i read it wrong and you have the drops kaz is right one drop back of neak bobs your unkle

i only aply once also not five times

Edited February 21, 200916 yr by GenericBlue

Hi all, no I didn't mean to inject them. It is the injectable type, but I would put one drop on the bird. Also is vaseline comparable to parafin oil and if so, would I apply it the same way? Some people use Detol and water-50/50-what do you think? Thanks.Norm, did you use this on your birds-the 10gm/ml one for cattle?Is it too late for vaseline as Kiwi has scissor beak now? She still eats and hasn't lost any feathers, but she bites her feet all the time.

Dont use Detol, too many fumes to put on the face.

 

Olive oil, paraffin oil, Vaseline etc can all be used to smother the mites. Apply carefully to affected ares once a day for 5 days, careful not to get any in the eyes, beak, nostrils and feathers.

 

Photos???

If you dont have ivermectin you can use vaseline or olive oil. It blocks the wholes where the scaly mites are and suffocates them. Apply it on the cere but be carefull of the nostrils.

Sofia, could you please post a picture of your budgie with the scaly face. I would err on the side of caution with anything injectable. Its very easy to overdose using injection and should only be done by an avian vet.

 

 

Liv, I will try to take a picture of her tomorrow for you to see.

Hi all, no I didn't mean to inject them. It is the injectable type, but I would put one drop on the bird. Also is vaseline comparable to parafin oil and if so, would I apply it the same way? Some people use Detol and water-50/50-what do you think? Thanks.Norm, did you use this on your birds-the 10gm/ml one for cattle?Is it too late for vaseline as Kiwi has scissor beak now? She still eats and hasn't lost any feathers, but she bites her feet all the time.

A breeder I know uses the dettol but it didnt work when he demonstrated on a hen of mine, where the spot on ivermectin does. Vaseline is too easy to get in the nostrils unless you are careful with a cotton bud. The ivermectin for cattle diluted has to be done properly as per this topic..... http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=24762

 

Scissorbeak is very different to a beak affected by scalyface...different condition entirely.

Edited February 22, 200916 yr by KAZ

One of my cockatiels has scissors beak. If your baby is very young you can massage it every day and it should mould back into place. If it is older then it needs an operation to be fixed.

Hi all, no I didn't mean to inject them. It is the injectable type, but I would put one drop on the bird. Also is vaseline comparable to parafin oil and if so, would I apply it the same way? Some people use Detol and water-50/50-what do you think? Thanks.Norm, did you use this on your birds-the 10gm/ml one for cattle?Is it too late for vaseline as Kiwi has scissor beak now? She still eats and hasn't lost any feathers, but she bites her feet all the time.

A breeder I know uses the dettol but it didnt work when he demonstrated on a hen of mine, where the spot on ivermectin does. Vaseline is too easy to get in the nostrils unless you are careful with a cotton bud. The ivermectin for cattle diluted has to be done properly as per this topic..... http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=24762

 

Scissorbeak is very different to a beak affected by scalyface...different condition entirely.

 

 

What would the condition be? It happened all at once. I will try to get a picture tomorrow for you guys. Thanks for all your help.

Edited February 23, 200916 yr by KAZ
fixed mucked up quote tags

Best one to use in Aus is Ivomec Pour-On for cattle. Bayer make one too I think called Baymec. Eprinex Pour-On for cattle is also okay. One drop on the back of the neck. Do not use the oral sheep, cattle or horse products as they don't have the right solvents/surfactants etc to help the product tranfer through the feathers. The best way to go about Ivomec purchase is to buy the 500mL bottle (actually might be 250mL) and share it between a few different people who have birds. Make sure if you decant into another container that you write on the bottle what it is and it's expiry date etc, and then store the Ivomec away from light as light will destroy the effectivity of the product. Forgot to add that rural merchandise stores like Elders, Landmark, CRT, Farmworks etc are the best places to find this product. You might need to order in the smaller bottle if the store normally deals with large cattle herds they might have to get the small size in for you.

Edited February 23, 200916 yr by nubbly5

Some vets will decant for you (although some may wish to have a consult as mentioned) so that you don't have to buy a huge bottle. My vet decants a few different things for me for my rats because he knows me well - usually once you've had one consult they are happy to decant them for you for your other animals (once they recognise that you know your stuff, basically).

 

Or you could find someone who has a vet who is happy to do it, and get them to get you a small supply. This is common in the rat world because you need soooooo little per animal, so it's hard for a pet owner with one or two rats to buy a $100 supply!

 

I was happy to find out that Ivermectin is used for budgies, because I know my vet will be happy to supply to me if needed.

 

Good luck!

Best one to use in Aus is Ivomec Pour-On for cattle. Bayer make one too I think called Baymec. Eprinex Pour-On for cattle is also okay. One drop on the back of the neck. Do not use the oral sheep, cattle or horse products as they don't have the right solvents/surfactants etc to help the product tranfer through the feathers. The best way to go about Ivomec purchase is to buy the 500mL bottle (actually might be 250mL) and share it between a few different people who have birds. Make sure if you decant into another container that you write on the bottle what it is and it's expiry date etc, and then store the Ivomec away from light as light will destroy the effectivity of the product. Forgot to add that rural merchandise stores like Elders, Landmark, CRT, Farmworks etc are the best places to find this product. You might need to order in the smaller bottle if the store normally deals with large cattle herds they might have to get the small size in for you.

 

Do you know what the potency is? For example .1% or .8% per ml or litre? Thank you.Today,someone gave me a little of something that's called a drench for chickens that's .8%/ml, but I'm afraid to use it as I don't know what it will do. The man said that he soaks his chicken's feet in it and the feet come back like new. He suggested I do the same with the budgie.

Edited February 23, 200916 yr by **Liv**