i am wanted to get some pied budgies for breeding but i have only ever had normals and spangles so i have been reading about the pieds on the forum. what are the main differences between the dominant and recessive pieds so when i buy a baby pied i would know how to tell if it is a dominant or recessive.

This link might help :wine

 

Click here!

The major difference is the pattern of the dominant to the recessive pieds.

The ones you can get confused are the double factor pieds and the recessive pieds. Usually the key to the double factors is that they are are not as heavy pied as your recessive pieds and the coloring is up by the shoulders more.

 

Check out the pictures of our forum members pieds to get a better look http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....mp;#entry170711 this will take you to the post and then just click on Dominant Pied and then also Recessive Pied.

No need for outside the forum links Little One...we have our own pinned topics under Budgie Mutations :wine

Oh, I was unaware of that. :wine

Recessive http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=9574

 

Dominant http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=9579

thank you, i looked at the pics but i think it will take me a while to work out which is dominant and recessive. i had no even heard of a pied till i joined your site a couple of months ago but it has been great to learn more about budgies.

thank you, i looked at the pics but i think it will take me a while to work out which is dominant and recessive. i had no even heard of a pied till i joined your site a couple of months ago but it has been great to learn more about budgies.

Dominant pieds have usually a more uniformed pattern on wings and body. There body has a band of colour acros the chest usually and mostly uniform wing markings.

Recessive pieds seem to have splashes of colour in mostly random patterns and areas over wings and body.

Dominant pieds have iris rings on their eyes and recessives have all black eyes.

:wine

 

I have found that recessive pieds have avery glossy silky feel to their feathers in comparison to most other types. Their chicks seem to be pretty independant immediately they leave the nestbox, flying right from the start. A good pied for the new to pied breeder to begin with

Edited January 7, 200817 yr by KAZ

thanks kaz, that is helpful. i am going on the weekend to look at some baby pieds a guy has for sale and i wanted to understand more about them before a go. i think they are beautiful looking birds and would love to breed some.

thanks kaz, that is helpful. i am going on the weekend to look at some baby pieds a guy has for sale and i wanted to understand more about them before a go. i think they are beautiful looking birds and would love to breed some.

Print off the topics we have pinned on recessives and dominants and take them with you to help once you get there. Its easy to get confused :wine

that is a good idea. i will see if i can get a pair of recessive pieds.

that is a good idea. i will see if i can get a pair of recessive pieds.

 

Hi Mick&Deb,

 

If buying a pair of recessive pieds it's best to get a recessive pied (is the coloured one) and a split recessive pied (looks normal but has a recessive pied parent) and look for ones that are a good size and type. If you breed two recessive pieds together I'm told that you reduce the size of your birds even though all babies will be recessive pieds.

 

If you can't get a split recessive pied of good size and quality to breed the recessive pied to look for a good sized and type normal budgie of that colour series ie: Blue or Green to breed splits with to be bred to a recessive in the future.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Harlequinlover

after your reply harlequinlover, i read some info about split recessives and then saw kaz's article about the pied spot and now i am wondering if a budgie i have that i thought was a normal with a funny white patch on his head could be a split recessive. i also have a blue spangle with a mottled coloured back, could he have recessive genes or is that common in spangles.

 

Jack with the spot on his head

 

Romeo from the front- nice sky blue

Romeo from the back.

Chances are good with Jack possibly split recessive. Romeo is normal for his spangle genes

thanks kaz for helping me understand more about the pieds. i am wanting to use jack for breeding and now i will try to breed him with a recessive pied and see what the account is.

hi, just wanting to ask another question about the pieds. i have heard you mention split recessive but can you get split dominant pieds because if you had a normal that had one parent a dominant pied if you breed it with a dominant pied would the offspring be pieds or all normals or is it only the recessives that can be split. i hope this makes sense.

Only Recessive traits can be split.

 

A dominant pied parent to a normal will produce both Normal and Pied babies.

hi, just wanting to ask another question about the pieds. i have heard you mention split recessive but can you get split dominant pieds because if you had a normal that had one parent a dominant pied if you breed it with a dominant pied would the offspring be pieds or all normals or is it only the recessives that can be split. i hope this makes sense.

 

If you had that combo you would get a dominant pied split to recessive pied. Anything dominant is said first (because that is the visual part of the bird) so dominant pied split to the blue gene. Since Green is dominant over blue. I hope that makes sense.