Dave_McMinn

Well, today I rung my first 2010 birds, and they are all sons and daughters of the recently departed Dumber (RIP). 2 are in Earl and Latte's nestbox, the two eldest, and 4 are in with DF widow. I am going to move one tomorrow so it is 3 and 3. I cannot believe that when Dumber bred with Cino he had 2 young, only 1 which survived, but when he bred with this young DF, he had 5 offsrping, with potentially 2 more to hatch. Amazing. Such a shame he is gone, but nice to know that his genes will be passed on. One of the exciting things is that since his mate is a DF, I do not really know what she is masking. She might be grey, mauve, cobalt or sky, opaline or cinnamon, I really will not know, and may not know the cinnamon bit for another generation. All the young look well, and well fed. The DF appears to be a great mother. Plenty of millet in her nestbox assists her as well.

New rings are going on tomorrow - better early than late. 2 chicks for Earl and Latter 3 chicks for DF widow No chicks for dom pied hen with cinnamon winged dad - I think she might be an eater of eggs. We will see

Opaline Cinnamon Winged Cobalt

jlee, You write your thread as one of fear and trepidation. No one is attacking others personally, just pointing out the problems that exist with colony breeding. I would like to think that we respect the opinions of others on here, and I know that when we are all starting out, financially, colony breeding is often the way we go. When we advise against colony breeding, we do so as we have seen the results. Do we wish it was another way? Of course. I am not sure that the quiet members are quiet because they are colony breeders who are afraid of getting "attacked", rather I think that people have busy lives, and often people read a thread to learn more, and do not feel the need to comment.

Keep us up to date on how the little ones are going mate. You have done the right thing.

that is good news. Maybe just a well feathered bird then?

Well done Renee. Your extention to your aviary looks fantastic.

Dumb has been returned to the aviary, along with the DF Yellow boy who's mate died - she was eggbound. It looks like a little time since he has been somewhere he can fly, so he has to build up his wing muscles again. All young are going well.

Been there, done that. She is a busy little bee who throws all the nest material out as soon as it comes in, no matter how many eggs are there.

Kaz knows a lot more about the greywng genes than I do, but as I understood, a bird is either greywing or dilute. There are different types of greywing, and yours may one of the varieties in which the greywing gene dilutes the body colour, however I thought that greywing was dominant over dilute - I might be thinking of clearwing here so I might need to be corrected.

I think that this chick lays eggs from a height - dropping them and damaging them. She must jump in the final stages when she lays them.

Once more, genders are important here

Since the albino gene is sex-linked, you need to tell us genders as well

I am very impressed by this Renee. It is very inspiring.

It is good to see. My two rehomed little ones 1. Opaline YF1 Cobalt 2. Grey Green Dom Pied Twitch and Kiwi's Offspring 1. Grey Green Opaline Dom Pied, Grey Opaline Dom Pied, Grey Green Cinnamon Wing in one cage 2. Cinnamon wing dom pied still in with Twitch and Kiwi - see if you can spot Twitch subtlely entering one picture 3. Kiwi with her new eggs Dumber(RIP) and his DF widow have eggs scattered. Here are some in different nests 1. In Earl and Latte's nest, with some of their new eggs 2. In with DF widow herself 3. Green Dom Pied hen with Cinnamon wing Cock - their eggs with some fosters A new pair that I recently put down, hoping for good things

Vet. They may strap it. At least you will know then - better to know than to let it go.

New pics, as promised. Now, I have a few, so I am going to need to post in two goes. The offspring of Dumb and Kestral 1. A reminder of Dumb\\\\\\\'s majestry 2. His eldest grey 3. His mini-me son 4. His DF son Ceasar\\\\\\\'s offsrping - starting their first moult 1. His Albino daughter 2. His Opaline Spangle Son Earl and Latte\\\\\\\'s 2 Opaline Grey Boys

They are coming along quite well

that is good

do you think they will grow back properly or will it forever be visible?

Bit dark when i got home, so tomorrow i will try try try again

A sky rec pied spangle hen paired to a gf cobalt cock will give you All birds will be blue birds that are split to recessive pied. %0% would be spangles. Half will be sky, half will be cobalt 12.5% sky blue spangle split to recessive pied 12.5% cobalt blue spangle split to recessive pied 12.5% gf sky blue spangle split to recessive pied 12.5% gf cobalt blue spangle split to recessive pied 12.5% sky blue normal split to recessive pied 12.5% cobalt blue normal split to recessive pied 12.5% gf sky blue normal split to receeive pied 12.5% gf cobalt blue normal split to receeive pied This is all done off the top of my head. I might be wrong. Please anybody who disagrees, let me know how I am wrong.

They get calcivet in their water all the time when in breeding cages. The hen was one I bought off Budgie1981. She might have been on a nest and had her eggs thrown out when she was bought. She may not have wanted to lay more eggs, but her body was working against her. She had moved home so this was stressful. I left her with her current partner to try to make the move less traumatic, and I did give her a nestbox after a week, so she had someone to lay an egg if she wanted to, but it seems that something went wrong during the day whilst I was at work. She was fine in the morning before I left.

This is a strange one, gut wrenching. I have never had such a young chick die. Must be tough

I will get some new tomorrow. Tonight I had to move 3 out of 4 of the babies from Twitch and Kiwi's cage to a seperate cage - they can go in the kindy cage tomorrow but it was dark, so I did not want to do it tonight. Twitch was getting a little annoyed with his kids in there, with Kiwi having layed 2 or 3 eggs in her second clutch. Why not move all 4? Kiwi seems very content having the cinnamon pied in the nestbox with her. Everytime I took her out, she got back in, and Kiwi seems to like having her there. I will keep my eye on her. The fiesty one has chilled a bit as well. Earl and Latte have 2 little jelly beans now, and judging by hatching time, they are fostered eggs. The timing is all off in this nest, as 3 eggs were fostered in, and Latte has layed 5 others of her own. Not all will be fertile, but she layed an egg of hers today, which normally would not be happening with little ones hatching, unless the clutch was huge. I am sure that Omellette, Kaz's hen, has had this, as she has had clutches of 11 eggs before. DF - the DF spangle - the widow of Dumber(RIP), has 5 eggs in her nestbox, 3 of which I think are fertile. Today 1 of those eggs hatched. It will be easy to tell which eggs are the offspring of DF and Dumber(RIP) as they will all be spangles. DF spangle to SF spangle guarantees all spangles, and a 50% chance of double spangles. Earl and Latte are grey opaline normals, and the other foster parents are a green cinnamon cock and a green dom pied hen. Blue spangles would be impossible genetically. Dumb has done well. His young ones are going well, and will soon head to the Kindy cage. He does not feed them anymore, and he is looking good. This was his second round, with his first clutch all infertile. I am going to give him a rest, so he will return to the aviary.