Kirby in general it's polite in society to wait for the person to answer your question before proceding to make additional comments However since politeness doesn't seem to be your stong suit here is my response to you, the pictures of the birds in the dirty cages were taken the day i got them the two tiels were got in that condition along with pretty boy the white face tiel, pretty boy does have a perch but didn't have one when i got him he does have one now, as for your comment about my keets having an egg REALLY WHERE because i'd love for them to have a clutch but that will be impossible as the two in the cage together are females as for you not being impressed with me i guess the feeling is mutual a little politness is called for on forums i do believe so since you say when i clean up the cage you'll talk to me i guess my thought are i have cleaned up the cages but still don't want to talk to you!!! :