**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) I have just discovered for the second time an attempt to break into my aviary. The first time I didnt take all that seriously...thought some screws had come adrift, or were missed in the new aviary build. This time I was around the back of the pop out section of my aviary and discovered all screws have been undone and a large gap where the aviary wire has been pulled aside. I may have lost birds but unless I chase them all up in the hot weather and check against records I wont know for now. Dogs have been barking at something a few nights ago. We thought barking at another dog. Obviously not. My husband also thought someone had been in our yard some days ago. Both times the attempt to break in has been targetting my junior flight.......babies aviary. Time to rethink security, and know that all is not good here in Perth Western Australia. Edited January 15, 2010 by KAZ Link to comment
renee 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I have just discovered for the second time an attempt to break into my aviary. The first time I didnt take all that seriously...thought some screws had come adrift, or were missed in the new aviary build. This time I was around the back of the pop out section of my aviary and discovered all screws have been undone and a large gap where the aviary wire has been pulled aside. I may have lost birds but unless I chase them all up in the hot weather and check against records I wont know for now.Dogs have been barking at something a few nights ago. We thought barking at another dog. Obviously not. My husband also thought someone had been in our yard some days ago. Both times the attempt to break in has been targetting my junior flight.......babies aviary. Time to rethink security, and know that all is not good here in Perth Western Australia. Oh My God! That is terrible. I would have thought that a break in was virtually impossible given the location and controlled access - plus doggies, plus sturdiness of the aviary construction .... Evidently not. Remingtons Insurance Broker Bird Insurance 03 5332 1933 And/Or Security cameras .... Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) Whoever tried knew there was screws to be undone and would have come with those tools.... being prepared. The wire has also been pulled aside with a gap large enough for a hand, arm or for budgies to get out. A few nights ago the birds were flying around in there in panic, slamming into walls and making a lot of noise. I went down and checked and left a nightlight on for them to give them a chance to settle. It was around the same time Ken thought someone had got in through a side gate. Edited January 15, 2010 by KAZ Link to comment
renee 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) Whoever tried knew there was screws to be undone and would have come with those tools.... being prepared. The wire has also been pulled aside with a gap large enough for a hand, arm or for budgies to get out. So what you are saying is they did not want to steal your young birds but instead allow them to escape? And from the sounds of things it could be anyone 'cause all they had to do was check out your set up and birds online here for example? Jeeze Kaz, that is pretty low. Did you take a photo when you discovered this? Edited January 15, 2010 by renee Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 Whoever tried knew there was screws to be undone and would have come with those tools.... being prepared. The wire has also been pulled aside with a gap large enough for a hand, arm or for budgies to get out. So what you are saying is they did not want to steal your young birds but instead allow them to escape? And from the sounds of things it could be anyone 'cause all they had to do was check out your set up and birds online here for example? Jeeze Kaz, that is pretty low. Escape or steal.............the thing is they could have been interrupted..............there is access of varying kinds for anyone determined enough when you think about it. Link to comment
renee 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Whoever tried knew there was screws to be undone and would have come with those tools.... being prepared. The wire has also been pulled aside with a gap large enough for a hand, arm or for budgies to get out. So what you are saying is they did not want to steal your young birds but instead allow them to escape? And from the sounds of things it could be anyone 'cause all they had to do was check out your set up and birds online here for example? Jeeze Kaz, that is pretty low. Did you take a photo when you discovered this? Escape or steal.............the thing is they could have been interrupted..............there is access of varying kinds for anyone determined enough when you think about it. I've always thought of your place as Fort Knox .... but you'd know better than anyone else. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 I've always thought of your place as Fort Knox .... but you'd know better than anyone else. It is, but anyone determined will find a way to get what they want. Link to comment
renee 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I've always thought of your place as Fort Knox .... but you'd know better than anyone else. It is, but anyone determined will find a way to get what they want. Did you take a photo of the hole when you discovered it? Is it easy to fix? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 I've always thought of your place as Fort Knox .... but you'd know better than anyone else. It is, but anyone determined will find a way to get what they want. Did you take a photo of the hole when you discovered it? Is it easy to fix? No................top priority was to close it up which I did immediately. Link to comment
renee 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) Well I wouldn't go catching any birds in this heat either, but have you had a head count for the 'favorites'? Maybe you could take a video of them all with your new camera and then do a rough check that way? Edited January 15, 2010 by renee Link to comment
renee 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Why is no one but me posting on this topic? :laughter: Don't you care that Kaz has had this misfortune? Why aren't you being more supportive? Link to comment
maesie 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 3,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,386 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,580 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/11/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 27, 2013 Birthday: 20/04/1979 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Why is no one but me posting on this topic? :rofl: Don't you care that Kaz has had this misfortune? Why aren't you being more supportive? Don't be so Judgemental Renee! :laughter: You need bigger dogs Kaz!!! Or I should come over early and sleep nakid in your backyard... that will keep them away Link to comment
renee 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Why is no one but me posting on this topic? :rofl: Don't you care that Kaz has had this misfortune? Why aren't you being more supportive? :laughter: Don't be so Judgmental Renee! Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) Why is no one but me posting on this topic? Don't you care that Kaz has had this misfortune? Why aren't you being more supportive? :laughter: Don't be so Judgemental Renee! You need bigger dogs Kaz!!! Or I should come over early and sleep nakid in your backyard... that will keep them away The dogs are good....sometimes its how we interpret their barking isnt it I will pay more attention from now on, as they never bark for no reason. Naked Maesie ? Hmmmm even the dogs wear coats :rofl: PS we are reassessing the security measures. Edited January 15, 2010 by KAZ Link to comment
splat 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Kaz that's terriable yep nedd a rotreileer or whta ever you call them , or a doberman or a german sheppard something that will eat them but then the poor little cavs can't do that. Video s watching the the aviaries that will help. really hope you dindn't loose any Kaz Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) im reading i just have nothing to imput ren ive spoken to kaz and she knows my thoughts dogs dont work a massive stake fixes them or the smarter thief's be friend the dogs over time un less its a full trained security dog its just another deterrent (lend one from rip kaz lol ) im hoping that you being on to them stops it for now as for future well your a smart woman and im sure you will know what to do me id sit their in the dark night after night with black paint all over me holding a shot gun... :laughter: Edited January 15, 2010 by GenericBlue Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 im reading i just have nothing to imput renive spoken to kaz and she knows my thoughts :laughter: dogs dont work a massive stake fixes them or the smarter thief's be friend the dogs over time un less its a full trained security dog its just another deterrent (lend one from rip kaz lol ) im hoping that you being on to them stops it for now as for future well your a smart woman and im sure you will know what to do me id sit their in the dark night after night with black paint all over me holding a shot gun... Well theres room down there for me to sleep there mate This is the corner where the attempted break in occurred ..........the upright pole had the wire undone from it and the wire pulled away for access.........now repaired and made less accessible. Link to comment
renee 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2010 me id sit their in the dark night after night with black paint all over me holding a shot gun... Just had a thought - Have you reported this to the Police? I think they should be notified.This is the corner where the attempted break in occurred ..........the upright pole had the wire undone from it and the wire pulled away for access.........now repaired and made less accessible. Weird. Are you sure you are on 'friendly terms' with your neighbors? :laughter: Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 me id sit their in the dark night after night with black paint all over me holding a shot gun... :rofl: Just had a thought - Have you reported this to the Police? I think they should be notified.No. I once had experience of a vicious break in to my place of business when I ran a work premises...they smashed the front door in and took all my computer gear etc. They left behind a pocket knife with very clear fingerprints on it, and the cops just didnt want to know about it...couldnt care less. So I seriously doubt my birds will be of interest to them. :laughter:Weird. Are you sure you are on 'friendly terms' with your neighbors? Neighbours are fine......we are easy about their barking dog issues and they are good about our birds. If anyone was p*ssed off about our birds they would talk to us first and call council if we didnt want to know. Link to comment
renee 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2010 me id sit their in the dark night after night with black paint all over me holding a shot gun... Just had a thought - Have you reported this to the Police? I think they should be notified. No. I once had experience of a vicious break in to my place of business when I ran a work premises...they smashed the front door in and took all my computer gear etc. They left behind a pocket knife with very clear fingerprints on it, and the cops just didnt want to know about it...couldnt care less. So I seriously doubt my birds will be of interest to them. :laughter: But there is the precedent of Hans' place being broken into and birds taken ... I am pretty sure he reported it. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted January 15, 2010 im reading i just have nothing to imput renive spoken to kaz and she knows my thoughts :laughter: dogs dont work a massive stake fixes them or the smarter thief's be friend the dogs over time un less its a full trained security dog its just another deterrent (lend one from rip kaz lol ) im hoping that you being on to them stops it for now as for future well your a smart woman and im sure you will know what to do me id sit their in the dark night after night with black paint all over me holding a shot gun... Well theres room down there for me to sleep there mate This is the corner where the attempted break in occurred ..........the upright pole had the wire undone from it and the wire pulled away for access.........now repaired and made less accessible. so how about some metal capping all along the edging kaz then weld the joins no getting in then and a old persons alarm the ones when the pins pulled they go off you could set a line across the fence to somewhere leding to access point when they pass they will trip the pin and wake the whole town put it a chest height so animals dont trip it Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 so how about some metal capping all along the edging kaz then weld the joins no getting in then and a old persons alarm the ones when the pins pulled they go off you could set a line across the fence to somewhere leding to access point when they pass they will trip the pin and wake the whole town put it a chest height so animals dont trip it Yeah.......Ken has thought along those same lines and begun work. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted January 15, 2010 so how about some metal capping all along the edging kaz then weld the joins no getting in then and a old persons alarm the ones when the pins pulled they go off you could set a line across the fence to somewhere leding to access point when they pass they will trip the pin and wake the whole town put it a chest height so animals dont trip it Yeah.......Ken has thought along those same lines and begun work. Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I am just reading this now for the first time, so Renee, you will have to forgive my tardiness in responding. This is terrible Kaz. I am shocked that people do this. I hope you have not lost any. From a purely selfish point of view, check on Quiche!!! Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 I am just reading this now for the first time, so Renee, you will have to forgive my tardiness in responding. This is terrible Kaz. I am shocked that people do this. I hope you have not lost any. From a purely selfish point of view, check on Quiche!!! I did....check the quiche topic Link to comment
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