I have another breeding pair also, they are pieds. One dominent and one recessive. They have four chics right now and I am curious as to what they might look like and what future offspring may look like.

 

She (Daisy) is a Yellow Recessive Pied and he (Nanny) is a Light Green Clearwing Dominent Pied. Again, if I missed something on this pair I would be more than happy to know it.

 

Thanks and have a great day!

 

 

Daisy and Nanny

 

Daisy and Nanny

 

Daisy and Nanny

Edited May 7, 200619 yr by missdawne

Unless both your birds are split blue (which isn't that hard to be true) all the babies will be green. All will look like dad which different patchs of patterns ont he wings, but that is a dominant gene and the babies only need one to appear as such. All the babies will carry (split) the recessive pied gene from mum.

You may also get some dark eyed clears as they are both recessive pieds, crossed with clearflight pied.

They arn't both recessive Clearflight pied is a dominant gene.

 

If my reading is correct the DEC only happens with the dutch pied gene. I might be wrong.

ummm I think Nerwen is right. I see a dark green recessive Pied and a Light green Dominant Pied.

 

With Recessive pieds. they will be either bkue birds (White base) or green birds (yellow base) so you call them the off colour. Your recessive pied is green (yeloow base) with the off colour being a dark green.

 

As a dak green bird she carries a sigle factor dark factor. The babies will either be light green or dark green (Unless split to Blue) All will be split to recessive pied and 25% will be Dominent Pied.

Edited May 8, 200619 yr by daz

Are you saying that they will all look like dad to some degree? I will not have any visual recessive pieds?

 

They will all be split to recessive?

unless both parents are split to recessive pieds no because the dominant gene will mask the recessive.

 

Does that make sense? If you want more recessive pieds for sure you will need to breed with another recessive pied.

So the spot on the back of his head does not mean that he is split to recessive?

no it doesn't, he has the spot becuase he is a pied. It doesn't matter what sort of pied you have all will have some form of spot on the back on the head. There is never any way to tell by looking at the bird what it might be carrying (spit for)

 

They will all be split to recessive?

Yes all will get one recessive pied gene from the mother but for them to show they need two gene.

 

Daz is right you will also get some normal babies, if your dad is only a single factor pied, this means he has the one dominant pied gene and a normal gene that is hidden.

okay, lets see if I am getting this.

 

No recessive pieds

 

Some dominent pieds

 

Some normal

 

And in varying shades of green (unless both parents split to blue)

 

Am I close?

Yes I know that clear flight is dominant and recessive pied is recessive, but when both of those mutations are present it results in a dark eyed clear as quoted by http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/p_colors.html#darkeyed

 

"Dark-Eyed Clear

The dark-eyed clear is actually a combination of recessive pied and clearflight pied. When these two mutations are both present, the budgie is has no markings or color. It is either pure yellow (if it is a yellow-based budgie) or pure white (if it is a white-based budgie). The dark-eyed clear's dark eyes never lighten with age, hence the name."

I took these pictures of the babies today, any thoughts on what they may end up looking like. Two of the chics already have the pied spot on their heads.

 

Babe #1 Does he look like he is going to be yellow?

 

Babe #1 See the spot thats a different color on his head

 

Babe #2 His wing feathers are coming in super light, almost white...could he be white??

 

Babe#3 Cant see anything distinct on this little guy yet

 

Babe #4 See the tiny dark spots on his shoulders and on top of his head no where else though weird

The parents are very pretty.

 

okay, lets see if I am getting this.

 

No recessive pieds

 

Some dominent pieds

 

Some normal

 

And in varying shades of green (unless both parents split to blue)

 

Am I close?

 

You're close.. but it's too soon to say that there won't be recessive pieds. It is possible.. but Nanny would have to be split for it.. All of these babies are going to be split for recessive pied.. which means that someday if they were bred with a recessive pied (or another budgie split for recessive pied).. they could have recessive pied babies. They're all going to be split for clearwing as well.. and that works simularly.

 

It's probably too early for me to tell but... Baby 1 looks like he will feather mostly like a normal green.. but there is a pied spot. Baby 2 looks like he *might* be blue. I don't see any yellow on him..... so it would be a longshot.. but both parents may be split for blue.

Edited May 11, 200619 yr by HurdyBirdy

okay for some reason I was not able to get onto this website for the last 2 days...weird...anyhow...

 

Here is Blue and Tweety's babes this morning...

 

Here are Nanny and Daisy's babes, they are all lined up in the nesbox...cuty pies

 

This is baby #2...look at all that yellow and green coming in

 

This is baby #3 and he is blue or grey...definetly not green or yellow anywhere on him

 

This is baby #1 and he is yellow and green

 

This is baby #4 and I think I have a recessive pied in the making.....look at the wings and the dark spots

 

The parents are very pretty.

 

Thank you, I think the babes are going to be lovely also. Thank you for your information also.

Yes, that sometimes happens to me! I cant get on the site for a day or two...

 

Id say baby 2 is green opaline maybe.... if not normal then

Id say baby 3 is a mauve or grey

Id day baby 1 is a normal green

Id say baby 4 is yellow dominant pied

 

Kirby

Great pictures missdawne :hap:

 

My pick is:

baby 1 is a normal green

baby 2 is green normal (might be a light green)

baby 3 is a blue (any shade of blue is a dark grey fluff)

baby 4 is yellow dominant pied (might be a light green)

 

I love the head spot on number 1 it looks like it's onl two feathers

 

I'm glad they are all growing well. I can't wait to see what they look like in the end.