Hey guys...

 

I have a pair of budgies, as many of you know, that have had 2 clutches of inferile eggs over the past 2 months. Im letting them rest now, and im going to try breeding them again once their ceres are good, and once they are perfect condition. I have seen the male mount the hen at least 50 times, but he has fallen off every time, before he got a chance to rub cloacas. So, i was wondering if i should try and trim the vent feathers on both birds, to try and increase the chances of fertilzation? Should i pluck them with tweezers? Or trim with scirrors? The males 3 or 4, and the hen is 2 now, so they are perfect match. I have 4 other birds. 2 males, and 2 females. The oldest pair out of the 4 is a male whos 13 months old now, and a hen whos 9 months old, so in going to try breeding them in August, which by that time she will be 12-13 months old. The male from that pairing, is very desperate to breed. He mounts everyone, and everyting in sight! The bad thing however is that he HATES my 2 year old female who laid her first batch of eggs before the male ever mounted her! She wants babis SOOOOOO BADLY! Isnt that terrible htough! They are both old enough, GORGEOUS condition/and colours, but they hate eachother! :(

 

So, in all, should i trim, or pluck feathers? I know nothings wrong with the pair, just the male has bad balance. Hes getting better, but i just want to assist them in creating a wonderful family! ps-the male whos 3 or 4 now, i bred when i was 11 or 12, he was the last baby out of the 1st clutch i had...so hes very important to me...not to mention all my other flock members!

 

Thanks a bunch!

Kirby

I don't know much about this subject but I would think that plucking would be very painful and a bad experience for any bird. Just taking this into deeper thought maybe they are just not meant to be quite yet. If he doesn't have the balance going on yet do you think he is ready to be a parent? Nature has a reason for why things happen forcing it a long may not be the best thing. Just like humans you have to like each other if they don't like each other now what could happen when they have the babies? The parents could attack each other or worse the babies. I understand you want certain results but like you said Kirby your birds are your babies

 

That is just my 2 cents...like I said I don't know much about the subject but when things are forced nothing comes good out of it.

That helped a lot lovey..thanks!

 

I thought plucking would KILL too! But i have heard it doesnt..dont ask me how

 

They are old enough, (Laughing out loud), the male Chico is now 4, and the hen Ariel is now 2, but the male has never shown interest in breeding, until 2-3 months ago... I suppose your right, let nature take its course, and hopefully he will get batter balance. Its pretty sad though, (Laughing out loud), becuase my 6 week old male already is already stepping up on the hens' backs, and balances quite well until they tell him to get off...rather harshly... (Laughing out loud)

 

Thanks lovey, i appreciate it!

Kirby

your welcome...I think it is like people some have better balance and others don't (Laughing out loud). I am sure he will get it.

plucking doesnt kill them in fact it doesnt appear to bother them but why do you think they need to be plucked is your bird a big buff bird ? as this is the only reason you should need to do this four year old is getting towards the end of a males optimum fertile period its all down hill from now so if you dont catch both of them at their peak you could have trouble

Plucking is painful for the bird. It also has the added disadvantage of the fact that the feathers around the vent will grow back quite quickly. If you clip them instead, they stay clipped for ages, because according to the bird, there is still a feather there, even if half of it is missing

I would think that plucking could also cause possible infection depending how plucked too and that you would need to be antiseptic on it.

Plucking is painful for the bird

nope

It also has the added disadvantage of the fact that the feathers around the vent will grow back quite quickly

i wouldnt say this is a disadvantage you are only plucking for the birds to mate nothing else so it does not matter how quick they grow back

I would think that plucking could also cause possible infection depending how plucked

were not talking bald here just a little bit round the vent to thin them out

Edited May 8, 200619 yr by daz

gotcha hath..not knowing I was pictures a bald budgie :fear: thank you for clarifying

Either way, plucking feathers is going to hurt. Bald or not, it's painful to pull a feather. Parrots that feather pluck sometimes scream as they pull the feather out. That is a completely different situation though as 1) they're doing it to themselves and 2) they often do it FOR the sensation of pain. Just think of the way a feather is embedded and it's impossible to think of it as a painless process.

ever thought of waxing??? just kidding :-)

(Laughing out loud)!!

ever thought of waxing??? just kidding :-)

(Laughing out loud) guys...

 

Im just going to let them wait a bit, like anohter month.... The males starting to get picture feathers, and the hen's cere is still a white, peech colour. So i will update you guys on what happens over the next couple weeks, and hopefully when i put them back together for breeding purposes, his vent comes in clear cintact with her cloaca, without me trimming with scissors.. (Laughing out loud)

 

Thanks again guys!

Kirby

one idea... you getting that close to see that sort of thing would be a big interuption.

Not really, my budgies do it right in front of me and they don't care. They especially like to do it when I am studying too.

 

Yes plucking does hurt as feathers have nerves attached to them at the base.These are both locomotor nerves, so birds can puff and spread their feathers and sensory nerves. Plus you can also rip the surrounding skin as bird skin is very thin. Just like pulling scales from reptiles hurts, pulling feathers hurts birds.

Same applies to mammals (hair that is). Cutting feathers does not hurt.

ever thought of waxing??? just kidding :-)

Budgie brazillian

ever thought of waxing??? just kidding :-)

Budgie brazillian

 

 

way way way lmao!

You guys are hilarious!!!!!!!

 

 

 

Oh, and my bugs dont care who is watching either, if the mood strikes they "get jiggy with it" no matter who is around and/or staring and snapping photos. LOLOLOL

Edited May 9, 200619 yr by missdawne