I got a new hen today to be a buddy to my old hen(yes she's in quarentine right now) and I noticed her cheek spots are white, she's almost the same as my new male except she's not grey, my best guess at her would be a yellowface type II clearflight dom. pied grey wing dilute , my new male is grey greywing dilute opaline yellowface type II and his cheek spots are a light diluted violet, can someone explain to me what the cheek spot color variations mean?

 

thanks

Edited November 16, 200618 yr by Dingo

dilutes get a violet looking cheek patch.

 

Dark blue can sometimes mean they carry the violet gene.

 

White patchs can mean dominant pied, a mix of white and blue feathers are matched with spangles. Umm Yeah you can get a while range of different cheek patches.

thanks nerwen, I cannot tell if the new hen is spangle her markings are too light, but she has the dom. pied patch on the back of her head.

(Laughing out loud) doesn't really help becuase spangle have a dot as well. Is the body all one colour?

 

do they look a bit like this? or different.

there aren't any pied markings on her body, just the pied patch on the back of her head. she does have some blue in her cheek spots but they are mostly white, though I dont believe she is spangle. the pics dont do her justice, her body is green and blue, her tail is white and the bottom 1/3 of her wings are white, some of the markings on her back have a yellowy green running through them.

 

 

 

sorry for the poor quality pics.

I managed to get some better pics, her cheek spots dont match eachother one is mostly white and the other is mostly blue, she isn't molting the lighting made he look a little rough though, what do you think?

 

 

There is definately spangle there.

Spangle Cheek markings are discribed as Violet Suffussion Silver tolerated. which means Violet with silver edges...i think.

 

I would say a yellowfaced opaline skyblue spangle. Nerwen your thoughts ?????

I dont think she is opaline, the color bleeding through the wing markings is yellow it would be green or blue if she were opaline correct?

 

I think she is a continental clearflight or dutch pied, because of the way her wings are marked and the lack of coloration on her tail, and the pied patch.

 

any thoughts anyone?

She is a spangle and a yellowface (type 2)

 

Your right with the wings the would be bluish green the same as the body if opaline.

would I be close saying she's a greywing dilute spangle(SF) yellowface type II?

and does she look like a continental clearflight to anyone else?

She is not a dilute. I have a yellowfaceII dilute grey spangle and her markings are a lot lighter than that. Your budgie doesn't look like she has any dilution in the wings either that or she has a small dilution.

are you sure she's not dilute? her wing markings are pretty faint.

I've got a bird everyone agreed is a grey greywing dilute yellowface type II, his wing markings are a little more strong than hers, his markings are a grey/green hers are grey and grey/green

 

 

I dont have a clue what she is, but she is beautiful. another one to add to the list of i wants!!!

You can't have greywing and dilute at the same time, it's one or the other.

 

But your right she has pale marking and I would hazard a say at Clearwing. I think she has a pied genew ith her too looking at the bottom of the wings. In the other pictures I could tell if the markings went all the way to the flight feathers or not.

(Laughing out loud) doesn't really help becuase spangle have a dot as well.

Ohhhhhhhh this explains MUCH.. :hap: I was wondering what was going on with the back of Apples head with his lil yellow splodge :fear

It's how Freckle gained her name.

From that last picture she looks dilute

so, what was the conclusion with my little hen?

 

is she dom. pied or continental clear flight? is she dilute or am I going color blind?

She is dominant pied, and dilute. As far as clearflight, is her tail white? Clearflights will have white flights and a white tail. If she has white flights and a colored tail, she is whitewing/clearwing. Anything less than normal intensity has some degree of dilution to it, or it would be of normal intensity.

You can't have greywing and dilute at the same time, it's one or the other.

 

But your right she has pale marking and I would hazard a say at Clearwing. I think she has a pied genew ith her too looking at the bottom of the wings. In the other pictures I could tell if the markings went all the way to the flight feathers or not.

 

Hi Nerwen!

 

According to these sites Greywing and dilute do not seem to exclude one another.

 

See Dilution on this one:

Budgie Place

 

And Greywing on this one:

WBO

 

I confess myself a bit confused here….

her tail is white/yellow.

so would you say; clearflight greywing spangle(SF) yellowface type II ?

According to these sites Greywing and dilute do not seem to exclude one another.

No they don't exclude each other but they are classed as one or the other.

 

clearflight greywing spangle(SF) yellowface type II ?

Yep that's sounds like the answer we have all created.

okay, Thanks :bluebudgie: