just read on ceefax that the rspb wants all bird trade banned by the goverment to stop the introduction/spread of bird flu this includes pet shops fairs and private sellers

is it on the rspb website hath? i just looked and couldnt find it.

 

thanks for the update

dont know pixie25 i just read it on ceefax

oh thats disturbing news - keep us updated Hath!

that's ugly

me no like.

*eyes dart back and forth*

Edited September 6, 200519 yr by standbyme

The following link states the RSPB's view on the matter...

 

http://www.rspb.org.uk/Images/avianinfluenza_tcm5-79795.pdf

 

It only looks to potentially affect domestic birds being brought in from infected areas, not all bird trade...

 

Either way, I feel that it is such a serious thing that I would support any attempts to prevent it entering the UK.

 

[Modified after reading linked article!]

Edited September 7, 200519 yr by Allycat

the piece i read was all bird trade including bird fairs so that any inported birds could not be sold including private sales

so i might not be going to doncaster bird show then Hath :nest:

Hmm interesting. I suppose it would help to prevent a spread over here but I hope it turns out to be a temporary matter until some way of fighting it is found.

Julie

so i might not be going to doncaster bird show then Hath

 

i hope it doesnt come to this i dont think they will ban anything till it is closer

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4219592.stm

 

I've e-mailed my Minister Of Parliment to stop this nonsence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Changed MP to Minister Of Parliment

Remember No Short Cuts Please.

Edited September 18, 200519 yr by daz

I think they should ban the import of birds everywhere and also other animals as it can be inhumane, as a lot of them end up dying. :mellow:

mmm this is a tricky one i agree to a certain point but i know people who travell to south africa,belguim to import show budgies and these are certainly not neglected

There also trying to ban reptiles as pets!

mmm this is a tricky one i agree to a certain point but i know people who travell to south africa,belguim to import show budgies and these are certainly not neglected

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Yes I agree, what I really meant was relating to the cowboys who don't care about the animals they sell and also the traders who trap wild birds for profit. The UK and Europe should do something serious to stop that sort of trade as there are plenty of birds for sale in local countries.

totally agree there are plenty of breeders now for most birds

Hi all. I dont know if this helps or not.

My Doctor was visiting me yesterday, and while here was eyeing off my budgies and the subject of bird flu come up. He said our aviary birds will be okay. and if we are concerned about migrating birds landing on the aviary, he suggested putting an extra wall of bird wire, or mesh around the aviary, sort of enclose it so the birds do not contact each othe. Something like and aviary in an aviary I suppose.

 

I though it was nice of him to care and offer that suggestion.

He said it is like a bad cold, get up close and personal and you will get it. So keep birds a bit further away from the 'strangers'.

Cindy

 

PS also said if your worried about what are asian birds, phone your local health department.

I read an article in National Geographic about it, and it sounds really scary. It can kill within a week, it just fills the lungs up with fluid and there is a treatment that works some of the time. However, it was only found in poultry in South east Asia, and seemed to only spread bird to human. But there, it is hard to stop the spread of it because the birds often mix with different flocks and migratory birds often. Indoor birds shouldn't have too much of a problem. But aviaries would worry me.

After studying the graphs in the article, I decided that Sydney, Australia looked like the safest. The graph showed that out of all major cites, it would have the lowest death rate.

Edited September 21, 200519 yr by birdie2008

Main news article about bird flu see http://www.guardian.co.uk/birdflu/story/0,...1582197,00.html

Main news article about bird flu see http://www.guardian.co.uk/birdflu/story/0,...1582197,00.html

 

that is so scary! omg!

I just hope it doesn't turn the world against birds, as today's society can react badly to things like this.

 

The outbreak will happen one day, one good thing is today's health care is a lot better and probably not so many humans will die, it's the birds that I would be concerned about.

Yes, some people will be paranoid and probably try to euthanize all pet birds. They aren't taking mine. They may also get rid of their pet birds. THat will be a problem for rescues, who may also be wary of bringing in birds. If it starts spreading human to human, the birds don't really matter. And it will probably be more of a problem with native migratory birds. If your birds don't have contact with outdoor birds, they should be fine.

I just hope it doesn't turn the world against birds, as today's society can react badly to things like this.

 

The outbreak will happen one day, one good thing is today's health care is a lot better and probably not so many humans will die, it's the birds that I would be concerned about.

 

well just look at what happened in new orleans - the facilites were there to help people but POOR organisation descended into utter chaos and suffering.

 

we have the medicine and scientists available but in a crisis like human to human spread it all comes down to the emergency procedures of the government im afraid. if the government cannot organise itself or there is widespread panic leading to insufficient stock piling of vaccines it could end up much worse. i have little faith in the government - and thats what worries me. they took so long to take action to control MRSA for gods sake - our health care system is so lagging behind other european countries. by no fault of the medics but because the government didnt act when it should have.

 

i hope nobody gets rid of their birds, that would only add to the disaster. seeing as there is only one way that the bird flu crisis can go its really not looking good.

From what I've seen and read, it looks like the UK is in better shape than we are- you guys have vacinnes for half the population stockpiled, while the US only has enough vaccines for one in ten people. Australia, if I remember correctly, has enough for one in four people.

But that does not matter much if we can't organize enough to distribute them.

As far as I'm aware we only have a vaccine for the emergency workers.However what does confuse me is one report states that we have this vaccine yet another states that they can't stockpile a vaccine as they don't know what form it might mutate into for humans! Typical of our goverment or our panic spreading press I think.