Hi guys,

 

With it being summer now where we are, the insects are out and about (especially flies)by the millions. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with automatic insect sprays (AIS) and what they know about them being safe with birds??? Would anyone be able to recommend any other bird safe insect repellants/ eliminators? Apparently the Raid brand AIS uses natural pyrethrins and piperonyl butoxide as an insecticide synergist. The company claims that these are safe for humans and pets but I wonder if they only mean dogs and cats as these are apparently highly toxic to aquatic life.... Any thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated....

Also, would sprays/ toxic fumes kill birds instantly or do they happen over time?

 

Thanks in advance.

I use a mozzie/moth zapper. its gets the flies as well and it uses no poisons.

Hi Kaz

 

Yes, I forgot to add that the insects are indoors... And that a moth/ bug zapper would be out of the question as we live in a rented property (so wouldn't be able to put one up) and the budgie would be allowed free flight (supervised of course) so this might prove more hazardous to it...

 

Thank you for your reply as always though Anymore suggestions by you and other members would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

Hi Kaz

 

Yes, I forgot to add that the insects are indoors... And that a moth/ bug zapper would be out of the question as we live in a rented property (so wouldn't be able to put one up) and the budgie would be allowed free flight (supervised of course) so this might prove more hazardous to it...

 

Thank you for your reply as always though Anymore suggestions by you and other members would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

 

 

Indoors is where I use my bug zapper

 

They plug in to a power point, have a lead, and hang by anything that will hold the ring they hang by ( no mods to rented property )

 

My budgies have got out and been sitting on the bug zapper and none have died.

 

Rethink ??

Also, A budgie couldnt get through the bars on the zapper -

 

It is only the internal middle spine that actually kills.

Hi

 

Didn't know they had smaller bug zappers like the one you posted, S_C I was thinking of those large rectangular ones that I've seen being used outside. Thank you both... I'll try looking for one like that that can be hung indoors...

 

Cheers

in responce about the perethiam thingy i myself have not used one but am going to be sooni have a friend whom placed one in their flight /breeding room and said they were amazed at what bugs and stuff not to mention red mites dead on the top of breeding boxes floor extra its had no efects on their birds so far so im myself going to be useing on very soon im just going to inquire as to which one they said again as in brand name ill get back to you after new year as soon as i find out what one

Hi GB,

 

Thank you very much for that! It's good to know and to have another option at getting rid of insects Looking forward to your update Thanks again

Spraying AIL ( avian insecticidal liquidator ) around also kills insects and is safe for birds.

AIL is a pyrethroid based product. Most insecticides are pyrethroid or synthetic pyrethroid based. Others may not be so best to check what active is in the product you are thinking about. If it says "anticholinesterase" ANYWHERE on the packaging DO NOT use it. These are organophosphate based products and are VERY toxic to birds (us, dogs, cats, insects etc etc).

 

I use a 3 month outdoor synthetic pyrethroid surface spray in my birdroom and in the breeding cabinets and boxes. Spray first, let dry before introducing birds. Have been doing this now for several years after struggling to get control of a red mite outbreak. Works just fine with no ill effects on the birds.

Hi guys,

 

Thanks for all your replies.

 

Before I started this topic, I did a google search on pyrethrins and found out that some breeders/ people use it directly on birds as a spray (but at a lower dosage than what the AIS contains). Hence, the reason why I started the topic as I wanted to know if anyone has had any personal experiences of AIS.

 

Thank you again to all who have replied.

 

I tried looking for a bug zapper in my area but could only find the larger ones (perhaps I was looking in the wrong place), so as I already had the AIS from previous summers, I decided to buy a refill and set it up... So far I have had it up for almost two weeks now and there doesn't seem to be any side affects on the bird. So, this is just a little note just in case others would like to do a search on it in the future.

 

I am using Raid (natural).

Does anyone know if those liquid plug in mozzie things for the home are okay for birds?

I would try and find the "ingredients" of it and maybe do a google search. And be especially careful about the product "anticholinesterase" that nubbly was talking about.. And then also wait for the experts on here to comment

Nubbly is our expert on here

I have a question that is somewhat related, i know that pressurized air freshners are harmful for my bids but what if i used a non aerosal freshener is that safe for my birds as long as i dont spray it directly on them or at their cage?

I have a question that is somewhat related, i know that pressurized air freshners are harmful for my bids but what if i used a non aerosal freshener is that safe for my birds as long as i dont spray it directly on them or at their cage?

Aerosol or not.......its still down to INGREDIENTS

The home liquid plug-in zapper has Allethrin in it. I looked it up and it says low toxicity for birds. Still not sure though.

I have a question that is somewhat related, i know that pressurized air freshners are harmful for my bids but what if i used a non aerosal freshener is that safe for my birds as long as i dont spray it directly on them or at their cage?

Aerosol or not.......its still down to INGREDIENTS

okay thankyou :-) just wasn't sure, ill play it safe, won't use airfresheners in my room :-)

Thank goodness i read this topic my friend sprays her deodorant like right in front of her birds cage i better tell her not to or her bird will be at risk of dying

 

Thanks to everyone who posted in this topic it saved a birds life (possibly)

okay so i fanally got to talk with the breeder whom used the air thing and the one they use is

raid indoor

they recommend only using it till it runs out then not until next hot season or breeding season none of their birds have been affected and its sitting positioned above the breeding boxes

 

I have a question that is somewhat related, i know that pressurized air freshners are harmful for my bids but what if i used a non aerosal freshener is that safe for my birds as long as i dont spray it directly on them or at their cage?

Aerosol or not.......its still down to INGREDIENTS

okay thankyou :-) just wasn't sure, ill play it safe, won't use airfresheners in my room :-)

can use glen twenty it comes in spring garden or fresh linen i wouldnt go over board though but i use this in my flights once in a while if i think birds are starting to sneeze and stuff

i spray floors and in air just a tad in air kills strep ecol i and stuff never killed a bird yet only improved their health from my experience with it