May 24, 201014 yr Thanks Patrick, I will 'grill' Kaz for details of those boxes. Your set up looks so easy to use! Sorry about the lost hen, but at least you got some progeny from her... Still no eggs in my nests...waiting, waiting... I have put a spare cock bird in a cage in the nesting shed - and he sure is stirring up the other boys. Maybe it will help. Cheers, Joanne
May 24, 201014 yr Author Thanks Patrick,I will 'grill' Kaz for details of those boxes. Your set up looks so easy to use! Sorry about the lost hen, but at least you got some progeny from her... Still no eggs in my nests...waiting, waiting... I have put a spare cock bird in a cage in the nesting shed - and he sure is stirring up the other boys. Maybe it will help. Cheers, Joanne Hi there, Crazy as it seems the extra boys vocalising will help. My boxes are 250x250x280 The extra depth and size makes such a difference. The nest boxes they sell in shops are rediculous and are not suitable at all. No wonder the birds think a clutch of two is appropriate for the box size. Give me some room for god sake! Cheers Pat
May 24, 201014 yr Not real good at this but here goes. This picture is of the my birds as they were being paired up on March 1st. A number of spare cock birds remain in the bird room to help with vocalising! http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx85/je...57/P1020412.jpg Hi Just wondering - it is better for the birds to see each other with the wire cages? Some advice I've had suggests not to do this - but after reading your journal I wonder. Also, where can I find 'Daz's nesting box design'? I really enjoyed reading through your journal. Thanks for that. Cheers, Joanne Link to Daz' breeding cabinet and nest box design
May 24, 201014 yr Author Not real good at this but here goes. This picture is of the my birds as they were being paired up on March 1st. A number of spare cock birds remain in the bird room to help with vocalising! http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx85/je...57/P1020412.jpg Hi Just wondering - it is better for the birds to see each other with the wire cages? Some advice I've had suggests not to do this - but after reading your journal I wonder. Also, where can I find 'Daz's nesting box design'? I really enjoyed reading through your journal. Thanks for that. Cheers, Joanne Link to Daz' breeding cabinet and nest box design Hi Finnie, Thanks for that! Cheers Patrick
May 25, 201014 yr Author Hello all, My nest no. 19 has surprised me by hatching all 6 off their 6 eggs! They are a Ken Yorke Darkwing Hen x K. Kakoshke Black Eyed Yellow Cock bird. I hope they are up to the feeding demands. So far so good! Cheers Patrick
May 25, 201014 yr Hello all,My nest no. 19 has surprised me by hatching all 6 off their 6 eggs! They are a Ken Yorke Darkwing Hen x K. Kakoshke Black Eyed Yellow Cock bird. I hope they are up to the feeding demands. So far so good! Cheers Patrick what out come do you get with that excuse my genetic arrogance :ohmygod:
May 25, 201014 yr Author Hello all,My nest no. 19 has surprised me by hatching all 6 off their 6 eggs! They are a Ken Yorke Darkwing Hen x K. Kakoshke Black Eyed Yellow Cock bird. I hope they are up to the feeding demands. So far so good! Cheers Patrick what out come do you get with that excuse my genetic arrogance :ohmygod: Hi GB, To be honest I am following Ken Yorke's suggestion for this pairing to achieve Darkwings. I will need to check my notes as to what the breakdown should be,or otherwise someone else might oblige? Cheers Patrick
May 25, 201014 yr Author Hi GB I thought I had some info courtesy of Ken Yorke on mating Darkwings. Cheers Patrick Typical mating is Cinnamon Blackeyed yellow cock x Darkwing(sf) Yellow Hen (NB remember that almost all black eyed yellows are also cinnamon in Australia) =25% Cinnamon Black-eyed yellow hens (the exhibition black eyed yellow) 25% Cinnamon Darkwing(sf) yellow hens (yellow bird with brown markings) 25% Blackeyed yellow / Cinnamon cocks (the older style black eyed yellow without the cinnamon, now exhibited as Suffused Yellows) 25% Darkwing(sf) Yellow/ Cinnamon cocks (suffused Yellow bird with dark grey-black markings) or Cinnamon Blackeyed yellow cock x Darkwing(df) Yellow Hen = 50% Cinnamon Darkwing(sf) yellow hens (yellow bird with brown markings) 50% Darkwing(sf) Yellow/ Cinnamon cocks (suffused Yellow bird with dark grey-black markings) Once you have some darkwing cocks you can mate darkwing to darkwing to increase numbers and also breed some double factored darkwings:- Darkwing(sf) Yellow cock x Darkwing Yellow hen =25% Black eyed Yellow (the old suffused yellow) 50% Darkwing(sf) Yellow (dark grey-black markings) 25% Darkwing(df) yellow (near black markings) The reason we tend to breed darkwing yellow to Blackeyed yellow is to keep the body colour as yellow as possible. Sometimes if you continually breed darkwing yellow to darkwing yellow the body colour gets a bit suffused (more greenish) Edited May 25, 201014 yr by jetrick57
May 25, 201014 yr Not real good at this but here goes. This picture is of the my birds as they were being paired up on March 1st. A number of spare cock birds remain in the bird room to help with vocalising! http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx85/je...57/P1020412.jpg Hi Just wondering - it is better for the birds to see each other with the wire cages? Some advice I've had suggests not to do this - but after reading your journal I wonder. Also, where can I find 'Daz's nesting box design'? I really enjoyed reading through your journal. Thanks for that. Cheers, Joanne Link to Daz' breeding cabinet and nest box design Thanks so much jetrick! I'm on it!!! Gotta get that 'flock' feeling happening in the breeding shed! More boys! Bigger nesting boxes...great! Cheers, joanne
May 25, 201014 yr Author Not real good at this but here goes. This picture is of the my birds as they were being paired up on March 1st. A number of spare cock birds remain in the bird room to help with vocalising! http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx85/je...57/P1020412.jpg Hi Just wondering - it is better for the birds to see each other with the wire cages? Some advice I've had suggests not to do this - but after reading your journal I wonder. Also, where can I find 'Daz's nesting box design'? I really enjoyed reading through your journal. Thanks for that. Cheers, Joanne Link to Daz' breeding cabinet and nest box design Thanks so much jetrick! I'm on it!!! Gotta get that 'flock' feeling happening in the breeding shed! More boys! Bigger nesting boxes...great! Cheers, joanne Hi Joanne That's great, happy to share. Good luck with it making it happen! Cheers Patrick
May 26, 201014 yr Author Hi all, Pleased to say my nest no. 7 which produced 7 chicks last round have hatched their first chick of the second round this morning. This pair are a White Lacewing Hen x Normal Grey Cock bird. There are only 5 eggs this time round so I would be happy for it to be a small clutch to take the preassure off them both. Cheers Patrick
May 26, 201014 yr Author Hi all, This is a picture of my last chick to leave its parents after round one. Round two is underway and I have 11 new chicks in the nest. I would like it to be over asap as Spring will be here before we know it! Cheers Patrick
May 26, 201014 yr very cute patrick! i have a question thoguh what are you going to do with all of these 63+ chicks ??? :yes: lol that is a lot of chikcs to deal with, and where are they now, still in breeding cages with parents? and why do you want to finish before spring? is this mating season again???? or is it because you just dont want to mate then? from alp.boy
May 26, 201014 yr Author very cute patrick! i have a question thoguh what are you going to do with all of these 63+ chicks ??? :yes: lol that is a lot of chikcs to deal with, and where are they now, still in breeding cages with parents? and why do you want to finish before spring? is this mating season again???? or is it because you just dont want to mate then? from alp.boy Hi AB, All the chicks from this last round have left their parents and are in large stock cages holding on average eight chicks a cage. I have them in the birdroom where they can get use to the noise and activity and not be spooked by people.I am also beginning to get some of the better chicks use to the show cage for the future. Mi intention was to have one round in March/April and start again in the Spring which coincides with both many of the birds breeding cycle and the issue of the club rings for 2011. So not to over work the parents I have now decided to take another round now while it's working and breed my remaining pairs and outcrosses in the Spring. My plan is to keep the chicks I have bred long enough to assess their true potential.Which will probably mean having a member of the club visit my shed and help cull which is not worth keeping. Cheers Patrick
May 27, 201014 yr Author Hi all, Just wanted to share with you one of my favorite birds at the moment. It's a Clearbody Opaline Grey Green Cock bird that I acquired at an auction recently. I hope to use him in my Spring breeding season if not before. I love the colour! Cheers Patrick
May 30, 201014 yr Author Hi all, Sunday for me means a bigger clean up than is possible during the week and stocking up on seed etc. There are now 17 chicks in the nest from this second round with a number of eggs still to hatch. I'd be happy with smaller clutches this time round to make it easier on both the birds and myself! Cheers Patrick
May 31, 201014 yr Author Hi all, Five chicks hatched today which is great. One was actually coming out of the shell when I arrived home tonight. Great stuff indeed! Cheers Patrick
May 31, 201014 yr Author You have truly had some good results eh Patrick Hi Kaz, I hope you are well! To be honest I wouldn't know what is the norm, but yes loving the new chicks! That's the great thing about the forum in being able to assess what everyone else does. I've also been visiting a few local breeders here in S.A. to get an idea of what thay do with their birds. It's so varied which is great! Cheers Patrick Edited May 31, 201014 yr by jetrick57
June 1, 201014 yr Hi all,Five chicks hatched today which is great. One was actually coming out of the shell when I arrived home tonight. Great stuff indeed! Cheers Patrick Wow! That would be amazing to watch. Fantastic stuff. What greens do you give your birds? Cheers, Jo
June 1, 201014 yr Author Hi all,Five chicks hatched today which is great. One was actually coming out of the shell when I arrived home tonight. Great stuff indeed! Cheers Patrick Wow! That would be amazing to watch. Fantastic stuff. What greens do you give your birds? Cheers, Jo Hi Jo, They're a bit spoilt at the moment, as I have been giving the baby spinach which is way too expensive from the shop.I've just bought some raised veggies beds so I hope to grow my own in the near future. They get carrot and beetroot every morning mixed with soaked hulled oats,striped sunflower and wheat.I top that with a couple of Dr Rob Marshalls supplements. It's occured to me that there's a similarity to what we do and the huamn fitness industry in building up our birds. Hope that's a help! Cheers Patrick
June 1, 201014 yr Can't wait for your cull Patrick, sounds like we could pick up some nice birds Libby.
June 1, 201014 yr Hi all,Five chicks hatched today which is great. One was actually coming out of the shell when I arrived home tonight. Great stuff indeed! Cheers Patrick Wow! That would be amazing to watch. Fantastic stuff. What greens do you give your birds? Cheers, Jo Hi Jo, They're a bit spoilt at the moment, as I have been giving the baby spinach which is way too expensive from the shop.I've just bought some raised veggies beds so I hope to grow my own in the near future. They get carrot and beetroot every morning mixed with soaked hulled oats,striped sunflower and wheat.I top that with a couple of Dr Rob Marshalls supplements. It's occured to me that there's a similarity to what we do and the huamn fitness industry in building up our birds. Hope that's a help! Cheers Patrick Thanks for that. Grow your own is definitely the way to go - for us and them. I read about a nasty experience one of our top WA breeders had with shop bought broccoli - too many pesticides - so I'm definitely on the organic and self-grown path. I take your point re human fitness industry... Thanks for that, Cheers, Jo
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