okay I put down a DF spangle cock (Kaz's bird now with a grey cinn spangle, I had 3 fertile eggs and they hatched.

BUT the problem is one is grey spangle and that's great and one is a white DF spangle and that's great but the 3 rd is a cobalt normal and I swear I did not put other eggs in the nest but then I thought i may have which I didn't but this young baby is looking just like her siblings.

Has this ever been documented where a df spangle can through a normal because I am sure I read it somewhere.

I know i didn't put other eggs in their because I had 2 eggs that were layed on the floor from my violet and I put them in the other nest which is DF spangle too well those eggs hatched and I thought I have 2 DK greens which is right.

See, this baby, I rang her then put her in the other nest because she wasn't been fed probably, so it's only the last couple of days I am wondering what's going on.

Greg said I must of put another egg in there but I know I didn't because I had no more eggs laid. Plus the other pair that I could of retrieved an egg were grey greens but I didn't because they broke when layed from the perch and the same fro the violet there was only 2 because the last one she laid broke.

SO WHAT"S GOING ON .....???????????????????

Aside from the fact that you're not supposed to get Normals from your pair, have you ever gotten a dark factor bird from this line, or more specifically, from either of the parents? I ask this because if you haven't then it would seem likely that an egg or chick somehow got moved seeing as the chick is also Cobalt.

 

Your note that she looks like the siblings may mean you have in fact thrown something that shouldn't happen. I've only had that once (a looong time ago) when I put a Grey cock with a Light Green hen and one of the chicks was a Cinnamon Light Green cock. I too would have thought I'd moved an egg, but all the chicks from this pair had a very distinctive stance and half moon spots, something none of my other birds at the time had. So it can happen.

Yes Daryl the mother of the White DF spangle is cobalt spangle and his brother through cobalt spangles and they are all very much the same mainly the head and size.

Occasionally can get normals out of double factors.

Also on two occasions I have had normals come out of a pair of opalines in the second round.

I guess like genes mutate in the first place to create other varieties, they can also revert.

Or there is a different father, or an egg mix-up.

Could be sperm inside the female from an aviary mating up to 17 days prior to the egg being laid. Very hard to say who's sperm goes in which egg when there are multiple fathers.

 

Thats if 1) you didn't put any foster eggs in, and 2) if somehow a DF spangle DID produce a normal.

No there would be no sperm from another cock because their 1st round was clear and they haven't been apart.

And I know I didn't put another egg in there because the hen is on her own, she was even on her own when she laid the last 2 eggs, hense why they were probably clear.

can we get pictures of all the family?