Posted April 20, 200916 yr One of my hens has cut her foot and it was a bit swollen. I have cleaned it out with Benadyne, squeezed the puss out and rinsed thoroughly. I have crop fed her 1ml of Baytril and popped her into the hospital cage. Is that the best place for her, ie. heat treatment? Has anyone else dealt with an infection like this and what did you do?
April 20, 200916 yr Sounds like you have covered all the bases.....if no improvement I am sure you will take her to the vet.
April 20, 200916 yr Author Sounds like you have covered all the bases.....if no improvement I am sure you will take her to the vet. Of course but at this stage it's not too bad. So is the heat treatment the best way to go?
April 20, 200916 yr Sounds like you have covered all the bases.....if no improvement I am sure you will take her to the vet. Of course but at this stage it's not too bad. So is the heat treatment the best way to go? Any birds I have who are "under the weather" for any reason get the warmth of a lamp or hospital cage so YES...you have done the right thing.
April 20, 200916 yr Author Sounds like you have covered all the bases.....if no improvement I am sure you will take her to the vet. Of course but at this stage it's not too bad. So is the heat treatment the best way to go? Any birds I have who are "under the weather" for any reason get the warmth of a lamp or hospital cage so YES...you have done the right thing. What a relief. Thanks for that Kaz!
April 22, 200916 yr Hopefully the baytril was at the right strength, was the right antibiotic and was necessary to clean up the infection. Edited April 22, 200916 yr by Sailorwolf
April 22, 200916 yr Author Hopefully the baytril was at the right strength, was the right antibiotic and was necessary to clean up the infection. The last time I took a hen to the vet with a bunged foot her prescribed Baytril at 1ml per litre. :rofl: Of course if you have any other suggestions SW, feel free to post.
April 22, 200916 yr Hopefully the baytril was at the right strength, was the right antibiotic and was necessary to clean up the infection. The last time I took a hen to the vet with a bunged foot her prescribed Baytril at 1ml per litre. :rofl: Of course if you have any other suggestions SW, feel free to post. Renee are you sure about the 1 ml to 1 litre ? because a bird we have on baytril right now is on on 1ml to 100 mls water. Perhaps different situation though. :rofl:
April 22, 200916 yr The last time you took a bird to the vet with a bunged up foot could have been a bird with a completely different type of infection. Also the other's replies have already pointed out my reason for posting. My suggestion is to take the bird to the vet. Edited April 22, 200916 yr by Sailorwolf
April 22, 200916 yr Author Hopefully the baytril was at the right strength, was the right antibiotic and was necessary to clean up the infection.The last time I took a hen to the vet with a bunged foot her prescribed Baytril at 1ml per litre. :rofl: Of course if you have any other suggestions SW, feel free to post.Renee are you sure about the 1 ml to 1 litre ? because a bird we have on baytril right now is on on 1ml to 100 mls water. Perhaps different situation though. :rofl: Yes, quite sure - I just checked again to be certain. I got the Baytril from Rob Marshall and the indications on the bottle is 1ml per litre and the strength is 2.5%The last time you took a bird to the vet with a bunged up foot could have been a bird with a completely different type of infection.Also the other's replies have already pointed out my reason for posting.My suggestion is to take the bird to the vet.Well I'm not too stressed about her at this stage. She spent 36hs in the hospital cage, I crop fed her a couple of times, the swelling went down, she wasn't eating so I popped her back with her partner and he is feeding her now. I'm just going to monitor her from now on.
April 22, 200916 yr Personally I don't put birds under heat treament for cuts. If infection had set in one of the best things is to poor hydrogen peroxide 5% solution mixed water but I am not sure of the rate. It is usually on the bottle. Slowly poor over cut, the oxygen bubbles produced clean up infected tissue extremely well. then rinse with clean saline water and then Betadine to finish off. Couple times day and good as gold. As for using anti-biotics I am dead against the use of them for any tiny little mishap. Anti-biotics are a wonderful drug without a doubt, and one of man's best discoveries to date but the indiscrimate use of them is going to make them obsolete, and in fact in some cases they already are. You must also remember they come in different strengths based on what they were prescribed for in the first place.
April 23, 200916 yr Also different bacteria respond to different antibiotics. They reckon that antibiotics will be obsolete in the very near future as close as 50 years. That means that we will be back in the dark ages in regards to medicine and this is all due to indiscriminate and unauthorised usage of antibiotics. Our children and their children are facing a future where antibiotics will not work. In regards to the cut, keep it clean, you can use some water with a bit of detergent in it if you like. A little iodine/betadine or chlorhexidine scrub solution applied to the cut will also help with that. Probably not a good idea to squeeze the foot anymore too as that won't really help the tissue to heal. Swelling is a normal inflammatory response. What does the "pus" you squeezed out look like? If it was thin and watery and amber or clear coloured then it is most likely serrous exudate which is a normal inflammatory response in wound healing. Perhaps you could take a picture? Edited April 23, 200916 yr by Sailorwolf
April 23, 200916 yr I would like to know, as the hen wasnt eating and Renee has put it back in with her partner, ....how is the bird doing now ? is she eating ? and how is her foot ?
April 23, 200916 yr Author Personally I don't put birds under heat treament for cuts. If infection had set in one of the best things is to poor hydrogen peroxide 5% solution mixed water but I am not sure of the rate. It is usually on the bottle. Slowly poor over cut, the oxygen bubbles produced clean up infected tissue extremely well. then rinse with clean saline water and then Betadine to finish off. Couple times day and good as gold. As for using anti-biotics I am dead against the use of them for any tiny little mishap. Anti-biotics are a wonderful drug without a doubt, and one of man's best discoveries to date but the indiscrimate use of them is going to make them obsolete, and in fact in some cases they already are. You must also remember they come in different strengths based on what they were prescribed for in the first place.Sounds like good advice, pity you didn't post on Monday.In regards to the cut, keep it clean, you can use some water with a bit of detergent in it if you like. A little iodine/betadine or chlorhexidine scrub solution applied to the cut will also help with that. Probably not a good idea to squeeze the foot anymore too as that won't really help the tissue to heal.Swelling is a normal inflammatory response.What does the "pus" you squeezed out look like? If it was thin and watery and amber or clear coloured then it is most likely serrous exudate which is a normal inflammatory response in wound healing.Perhaps you could take a picture?It was yellow.
April 23, 200916 yr I would like to know, as the hen wasnt eating and Renee has put it back in with her partner, ....how is the bird doing now ? is she eating ? and how is her foot ? and how is she now ?
April 23, 200916 yr Author Little bit of swelling still but she's not limping at all, in fact she's very active.The cut is smaller than it looks as there's blood over the wound from when I last squeezed it on Tuesday. Edited April 23, 200916 yr by renee
April 23, 200916 yr Author Is she breeding ? She's in the nest box a fair bit with her partner but no eggs as yet.She's not a big layer - last year she raised 2 chicks from 2 nests (4 in total) and she tends to be very fussy about her partners, I had to wait 6 weeks last year for her to go down. Edited April 23, 200916 yr by renee
April 23, 200916 yr Personally I don't put birds under heat treament for cuts. If infection had set in one of the best things is to poor hydrogen peroxide 5% solution mixed water but I am not sure of the rate. It is usually on the bottle. Slowly poor over cut, the oxygen bubbles produced clean up infected tissue extremely well. then rinse with clean saline water and then Betadine to finish off. Couple times day and good as gold. As for using anti-biotics I am dead against the use of them for any tiny little mishap. Anti-biotics are a wonderful drug without a doubt, and one of man's best discoveries to date but the indiscrimate use of them is going to make them obsolete, and in fact in some cases they already are. You must also remember they come in different strengths based on what they were prescribed for in the first place.Sounds like good advice, pity you didn't post on Monday I am sorry but I did not look at the date of the post. I have been extremely busy of late and my connection speed is shaped till the 28th making it a damn pain to get pages to load quickly thereby taking longer to do things. I don't always look at the dates of thread postings. Renee, you could look at it as a reference for the future. Some postings are always gonna be late, not everybody is on the same timetable. Just had another thought. You could get on the phone to Kaz, Gina or even myself. I am sure anyone of us could have help far quicker than waiting for a reply on the forum.
April 23, 200916 yr Author Personally I don't put birds under heat treament for cuts. If infection had set in one of the best things is to poor hydrogen peroxide 5% solution mixed water but I am not sure of the rate. It is usually on the bottle. Slowly poor over cut, the oxygen bubbles produced clean up infected tissue extremely well. then rinse with clean saline water and then Betadine to finish off. Couple times day and good as gold. As for using anti-biotics I am dead against the use of them for any tiny little mishap. Anti-biotics are a wonderful drug without a doubt, and one of man's best discoveries to date but the indiscrimate use of them is going to make them obsolete, and in fact in some cases they already are. You must also remember they come in different strengths based on what they were prescribed for in the first place.Sounds like good advice, pity you didn't post on MondayI am sorry but I did not look at the date of the post. I have been extremely busy of late and my connection speed is shaped till the 28th making it a damn pain to get pages to load quickly thereby taking longer to do things. I don't always look at the dates of thread postings. Renee, you could look at it as a reference for the future. Some postings are always gonna be late, not everybody is on the same timetable. Just had another thought. You could get on the phone to Kaz, Gina or even myself. I am sure anyone of us could have help far quicker than waiting for a reply on the forum.No worries Sharon. Actually I did get a pretty instantaneous reply from Kaz .... Is she breeding ?She's in the nest box a fair bit with her partner but no eggs as yet.She's not a big layer - last year she raised 2 chicks from 2 nests (4 in total) and she tends to be very fussy about her partners, I had to wait 6 weeks last year for her to go down.Just a bit of an update on this hen. You may ask why I bother with her when her 'output' is so low. Well, here's the thing: she was given to me by a breeder 'cause she hadn't shown any interest in breeding despite his best efforts. She's always been fussy and taken much longer than any other hen to go down, but this I tolerate as I know she's got a history. More to the point she always throws MUCH better than herself so while her chicks may be few in number, they are of excellent quality.
April 23, 200916 yr If it was me, I would have got her well and forgot about breeding her for awhile.....give her a break until all is well with her foot.
April 23, 200916 yr Author If it was me, I would have got her well and forgot about breeding her for awhile.....give her a break until all is well with her foot. Normally I'd agree, but her partner's really looking after her and the 'schedule' is taking precedence. I feel guilty about it. There's no way she's going back into the aviary, probably I should put her into a holding cage with her partner .... we'll see.
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