August 15, 200915 yr quote from you .... Eldest - grey opaline dom pied 2nd eldest - green or grey green dom pied 3rd eldest - green or greygreen cinnamon winged dom pied youngest - green or greygreen dom pied To the grey from a green bird, then twitch must be split blue. dave is the cock green or grey green as against most peoples belifes a grey green will give grays not only greens when put with a grey bird and does not necessarily mean its split blue put with a green though only greens with a grey green greys can again be achived
August 15, 200915 yr Author quote from you .... Eldest - grey opaline dom pied 2nd eldest - green or grey green dom pied 3rd eldest - green or greygreen cinnamon winged dom pied youngest - green or greygreen dom pied To the grey from a green bird, then twitch must be split blue. dave is the cock green or grey green as against most peoples belifes a grey green will give grays not only greens when put with a grey bird and does not necessarily mean its split blue put with a green though only greens with a grey green greys can again be achived GB - cock is a green bird, thus why he must be split blue!!! Edited August 15, 200915 yr by Dave_McMinn
August 16, 200915 yr dave is the cock green or grey green as against most peoples belifes a grey green will give grays not only greens when put with a grey bird and does not necessarily mean its split blue put with a green though only greens with a grey green greys can again be achived A green or grey green bird breeding greys or blues MUST be split blue or am I reading this wrong?
August 16, 200915 yr Gorgeous Dave you are doing a much better job than me as I am getting clear eggs nearly every nest and if any are fertile maybe 1 or 2 babies every 3rd nest. Real bad. worse year ever.
August 16, 200915 yr Author dave is the cock green or grey green as against most peoples belifes a grey green will give grays not only greens when put with a grey bird and does not necessarily mean its split blue put with a green though only greens with a grey green greys can again be achivedA green or grey green bird breeding greys or blues MUST be split blue or am I reading this wrong?I think you are reading it wrong. I have a grey dom pied from this pairing. Thus I said my green must be split blue, as when bred with a grey, i got a grey.GB did not remember if the cock was a green or a greygreen. She was saying that if it was a greygreen put with a grey, it does not have to be split blue to get a grey.GB's confusion over the cock meant that she was making an argument that she did not have to make.Nubbly - you are 100% correct.Gorgeous Dave you are doing a much better job than me as I am getting clear eggs nearly every nest and if any are fertile maybe 1 or 2 babies every 3rd nest. Real bad. worse year ever.I might be having a bit of luck with the breeding, but if I get birds that look half as good as yours, then I will be happy.
August 16, 200915 yr dave is the cock green or grey green as against most peoples belifes a grey green will give grays not only greens when put with a grey bird and does not necessarily mean its split blue put with a green though only greens with a grey green greys can again be achived A green or grey green bird breeding greys or blues MUST be split blue or am I reading this wrong? reading wrong green has to be split blue as dave said however grey green can produce grey chicks with blue or grey or green bird and the green does not have to be split i know it sounds wrong but its true i had a big debate over it once and in end said okay what ever found out later that i was right with grey green they can produce grey to any colour but only can produce blue if the the other bird is split blue and also them self hope that made sence and dave i was not making argument just asked if he was grey green or green as you said i had forgotten and was interested for myself only
August 16, 200915 yr Author Very nice Dave. The YF is lovely.Does one of the opaline grey babies have a weepy eye? Might need the feathers trimmed....... And not trying to be picky here but is the egg in the last photo slightly dented? If so often nail polish on the dent will ensure that air does not get in that site and cause the egg to addle.One of the greys did have a weepy eye, so i trimmed the feathers around his eye. I have never had that before. Is that a common thing? Is it just due to the feathers? Will it correct itself? Is ti simply weeping because the feathers are annoying the eye?There is a slight dent in that egg. I have no nail polish here, but I am told I can use liquid paper for the same effect.Just on the things needed. yesterday i bought make-up pads to be used on babies with splayed legs, and now you expect me to have nail polish. As a single male, I never realised how much the "fix" in budgie breeding was female orientated. Scared what I might be asked to get next. dave is the cock green or grey green as against most peoples belifes a grey green will give grays not only greens when put with a grey bird and does not necessarily mean its split blue put with a green though only greens with a grey green greys can again be achivedA green or grey green bird breeding greys or blues MUST be split blue or am I reading this wrong?reading wronggreen has to be split blue as dave saidhowever grey green can produce grey chicks with blue or grey or green bird and the green does not have to be split i know it sounds wrong but its true i had a big debate over it once and in end said okay what ever found out later that i was right with grey green they can produce grey to any colour but only can produce blue if the the other bird is split blue and also them self hope that made sence and dave i was not making argument just asked if he was grey green or green as you said i had forgotten and was interested for myself onlymaking an argument GB is making a case. It does not mean starting a fight. Do not misinterpret the words. Everyday in a court of law, a barrister makes an argument, as in he puts forward his case. I am sorry if you misinterpreted it incorrectly.As for a greygreen bird being able to produce a grey bird with any colour bird, that is not true. If a grey bird is bred to a green bird that is not split to anything, that is it's genome GrnGrn, than it is impossible for the young to be grey. They will all be greygreen. DF grey to a DF green will give you greygreen young. It is impossible to get grey young.
August 16, 200915 yr okay if you say so however i resurched this quiet extensively but its good i can except your none belief i myself thought the same as you at first i personally dont care anymore your chicks are lovley what ever the fact so..... good luck with future breedings gb
August 16, 200915 yr Author It is not about beliefs, it is about science. The problem of the cracked egg was solved by then hen - she ate the egg. Problem solved.
August 16, 200915 yr Author You have the most beautiful birds Dave....you must be so proud Not there yet. When I have bred the most beautiful birds, then I will be more proud. At the moment, it is kind of cheating. That is why I look at what Kaz and Splat have done, and i am so in awe. To breed a good bird, that is something to be proud of. having enough money to be able to source good birds, well that is good, but i do not think you can really take that much credit. I am proud I have worked hard, have a good job, to buy birds, that I can provide for -
August 18, 200915 yr Author Well 2 of the greys have come out of the nestbox. I put them back in at night, as it is stilla bit chilly. My 3 spangle young look great. I think that "leg issue" was me worrying about nothing. My DF looks like she is going to be a good "protective" mother. The young ones form Twitch look to be real screamers. The eldest hen, the grey green opaline dom pied, looks to be a real screamer - like to bite too. Might put the new pairs that do not appear overly interested in the aviary and put birds in there that are quite keen and ready to go.
August 22, 200915 yr Author It has been a bad last couple of days. One of my favourite birds - Dumber - I found dead in the nest box. He had suffered some type of internal rupture. He had been bleeding from the anus. Very sad. Took me a few days to even want to tell everyone. Dumber is one of two identical birds - one of which is in my signature. His breeding partner, DF, is sitting on 7 eggs. I have fostered 4 out to other mothers so far. Very sad. Then tonight, I was checking on the babies, and one of my grey little ones did not look good. I picked it up, and there was a lump of poo stuck to its butt. I removed it and "stuff" gushed out. I do not want to describe it, I almost upchucked then and there, not pretty. I took some photos of the others. Dumber - with Kestral removed, has been looking after these three. There is a grey spangle who has fledged but is still being fed by Dad, an identical young guy like Dad, and a DF spangle, who i thought had a bad leg, but I was worrying about nothing. Earl and Latte have 2 opaline greys Twitch and Kiwi have 4 young. the greygreen dom pied has a lot of attitude - always biting and waving her wings in aggression. the grey is very cute and cuddly. Another cute picture - sleeping in the kindy cage
August 22, 200915 yr :o i fill so bad for you rite now :sad: :rip: :rip: :rip: i like the nest with all the pieds in well done mate
August 23, 200915 yr Author Dave, that Pied Opaline Grey Green hen is going to be VERY nice :question: . Well done. If her appearance is about half as big as her attitude, then yes, she will be stunning - :question:
August 28, 200915 yr Author Only been 4 days since i updated, but it seems like such a long time. New to come tomorrow, but a quick overview. Caesar's kids are doing well in the kindy cage with the two adoptee's from Budgie1981. They are about to be joinged by the two grey opalines from Earl and Latte. Kestral is back in the aviary, and flirting an amazing amount. Dumb has 2 out of three fledged - the grey spangle and the sky blue opaline spangle (his very own mini - me). The DF is yet to fledge. Earl and Latte have a few eggs of their own, and they are sitting on 3 of Dumber(RIP) and his DF Widow. The DF Widow has 3 or 4 of her own. The Green Dom Pied hen paired to the Green Cinnamon Cock have a few eggs of their own, plus 2 from Dumber(RIP) and his DF Widow. A new pair - a dark geen cock and a light greygreen hen - a pair bred by John Hewitt - will get a nestbox tomorrow. A new pair of a Green cock and a greygreen hen - a pair bred by Greg Gregoriou - will get a nestbox tomorrow. A couple of pairs will be removed to the aviary - pairs from Budgie1981. A Henry George bloodline cobalt cinnamon wing boy will go with a John Hewitt bred cobalt opaline girl tomorrow. A Cec Gearing bred Grey cock will go with an Albino girl. That is the plan - we will see how it goes.
August 31, 200915 yr Author Lost an eggbound hen last night, not good. In other news.... Removed the nestbox from Dumb and his offspring. All are out and perching well. All young are doing well. Earl and Latte have their first hatching. Based upon timing, it is on of the eggs from Dumber(RIP) and his DF widow. Looking forward to more hatchings. Cin and his Dom Pied partner have 4 eggs, so that is good. DF has 5 eggs. No more laying, just waiting for hatchings now.
August 31, 200915 yr Pity about the hen Dave. Some of them show signs too late to step in and help them out :rofl:
August 31, 200915 yr Author There were no obvious signs with this hen. She had layed an egg, and had proceeded to eat it - when i had checked the nestbox, you could see there still was some yolk remaining. It is quite sad as she was a stunning bird. I have one offspring of hers, so the genes will get passed down, but it is a shame. I forgot to mention that Kiwi has layed another egg, her first in her second round. She seems quite happy with having her youngsters in the box with her, but I will remove them today to the kindy cage. Kaz, how old are your young when you put them in the aviary for the first time?
August 31, 200915 yr There were no obvious signs with this hen. She had layed an egg, and had proceeded to eat it - when i had checked the nestbox, you could see there still was some yolk remaining. It is quite sad as she was a stunning bird. I have one offspring of hers, so the genes will get passed down, but it is a shame. I forgot to mention that Kiwi has layed another egg, her first in her second round. She seems quite happy with having her youngsters in the box with her, but I will remove them today to the kindy cage. Kaz, how old are your young when you put them in the aviary for the first time? I try to keep them in the kindie cage for 3 months or so, or till past their first moult. They have stayed longer in the kindie cage through winter as its been so cold outside. Some youngsters went out in the aviary earlier than others depending on how well they were doing. I lost of couple of babies in the aviary when the weather was at its worst this year though :rofl: Cant wait for the new flights to be finished. Waiting on the concrete guy now.
