Hi.

 

What is the biggest show of australia? Where all bird breeders from every state come together and show? How often is it and where is it?

 

Also, I noticed In the UK their is a world show, do australians go to that?

 

Thankyou.

I guess that would be the national, it was in Perth last year.

 

 

I wouldn't think Aussies would be able to go to the one in the UK due to quarantine issues

Thank you Melbourne budgies

Pearce - MB is right, quarantine issues pervent birds leaving Australia. The pinnacle in the hobby is the Nationals, last weekend in May each year in a different state. The weekend prior each state has it's selection with approximately 1000 birds to select from. Nationals are state based team competition. I think Victoria has only lost 1 ? National Championship in the last 10 years

Thankyou heathrow and melbournebudgies, who did vic lose to?

Edited March 15, 200916 yr by Daz

It was N>S>W.They just got lucky the day, :happy-dancing: :hap:

The ANBC National show is where all the states comes together. Wether it is the biggest not really sure. As the national there are 22 classes resitristed to 14 birds in each. Total 308 birds. I am sure that in NSW and/or Vic major shows would top that number.

Edited March 15, 200916 yr by RIPbudgies

Does the winner of the nationals go on to another bigger show? or does it end their and they go again next year.

 

Thankyou all.

No that's it. The birds are young birds only bred the preceeding year. They get one shot.

okay so people dont show birds that are 4 or 5 years old? Has their ever been a really old bird that has won the nationals? Have any members of this forum won the nationals?

No that's it. The birds are young birds only bred the preceeding year. They get one shot.

Pearce...read what RIPBudgies said

 

 

Rules of The Australian Budgerigar Nationals.

Edited March 15, 200916 yr by KAZ

There is mo one winner at the nationals. There are 22 varieties but they don't compet against each other.

Really I didn't know that no one bird won. I thought there was a Best in Show award. I also didn't know that they were only ever 1 year old, you learn something new every day...

We all aspire to win at Nationals, it's the pinnacle of show budgie breeding! I'm sure some members have won but for most of us Novices it's a dream!

Yep a big dream that I haven't even thought of yet. But wouldn't it be nice

 

Heathrow won at the Nationals in 2007 I think and 3rd last year.

You have to have goals... I think this is one that many show breeders have.

 

In SQ you have to have a bird represent your club at the preselections and then be picked to go to the Nationals. I would be happy this year to have a bird represent my club.

 

2007 I had 5 birds represent my club but none got in the top ten. The top three go to the nationals. It is very competitive.

Victoria has won 14 of the last 18 Nationals. It's generally a battle between NSW and Vic with SE QLD coming a close 3rd. For more info on the history of the show have a look at the ANBC site. Here's a link to the past results:

 

ANBC Results Summary

 

I think with the ring issue date being brought forward to Sept 1st we are slowly inching forward to having current and previous year birds being allowed to be shown as young birds. This wouldn't be such a bad thing as it would:

1. Give a bird a second chance at making the National that may have missed that one day due to condition, and

2. Raise the quality of birds on display as the prospective pool to select from becomes even larger. This could also make winning just that more prestigious.

 

It would also be interesting to see if a bird could win "back to back" titles! There must be many cases of breeders producing an absolute cracker only to have it drop a tail, go into a moult etc and then miss the Nats. Given that we don't produce too many "crackers" it must be extremely disappointing to those breeders whose top birds can't be considered for selection.

 

Agree with Daz, just getting a bird to represent my club would be a step forward. The Nats is what we all ultimately aim for.

The birds wouldn't get a second chance as it would only be birds with the previous year's ring on. Eg this year's nationals are for Black ring rung birds. 2010 is for Red ring rung birds and so forth. What it does is to give the birds an extra 3months to mature a bit more. A bird rung on the 1 sept 2009 will be elagable for the 2011 nationals.

Hmm - Now that I've had success at the Nationals, my aim is to get a bird in the team each year.

The birds wouldn't get a second chance as it would only be birds with the previous year's ring on. Eg this year's nationals are for Black ring rung birds. 2010 is for Red ring rung birds and so forth. What it does is to give the birds an extra 3months to mature a bit more. A bird rung on the 1 sept 2009 will be elagable for the 2011 nationals.

 

 

Yes Daz I understand that but I was just putting the idea out there.

Quote: "we are slowly inching forward to having current and previous year birds "

 

So if this was the case, at the 2010 Nationals we would have black (2008) rings and red (2009) rings. I know it's a topic that has been discussed to death in the UK, that of having birds up to 2 years old in the young bird class. The current arrangement of having a Sept 1st ring issue means a bird can be 21 months old at the Nationals now anyway! We're almost there.

 

The thing I have not been able to obtain an answer on yet is this:

If I breed a bird in early Sept 2009 and ring it with a blue 2010 ring, what can I show it as at the young bird shows (not the Nationals) in May and June 2010? As far as I know those shows are still for 2009 red rung young birds. So does this mean my 9 month old young bird is unable to be shown as a young bird but if I want to show it will have to put it in the Adult/Old/Any Age class?

Edited March 16, 200916 yr by Daryl

Great Question - I dont now the answer, but there are sure to be changes to the Annual shows everywhere to accomodate the ring change.

Could this be a case of instead of moving forward that it could well be a step back and create more problems than it solves. How many people were involved in this decision in the first place and how much real though went into it..

Could this be a case of instead of moving forward that it could well be a step back and create more problems than it solves. How many people were involved in this decision in the first place and how much real though went into it..

 

The change of ring issue went to a vote at National level. I don't know how many attempts or amendments it took to get through but I'd be surprised if it went straight through as the States generally don't agree on these things immediately and some decisions take years to get carried (a look through the ANBC history pages would probably reveal the answer).

 

RIP, What problems do you see this bringing? I know that when the first Nationals were run in the 70's the ring issue date was 1st Jul. This meant the oldest birds were less than 11 months old! In 1978 the Nationals were in Feb meaning no birds were older than 8 months!! The issue date was eventually pushed back to 1st Jan (somewhere between 1983 and 1992 I think) and now pushed back further to 1st Sep. If this continues (and I believe there are some who want this) it will eventually be back at 1st Jul but the birds will be up to a year older than the original concept in the 70's.

 

On a side note, I had a quick look through the ANBC history pages and found that the issue of allowing 2 year old young birds to compete was raised and defeated in 1995 so perhaps the change of ring issue date is a way to achieve the same outcome by stealth.

Hmm - Now that I've had success at the Nationals, my aim is to get a bird in the team each year.

 

 

It would be a good feeling Heath? Hope to experience it one day.