Hi.

 

A light green opaline spangle hen paired with a skyblue cock produces: All green chicks (Providing Hen is not carrying blue) 50% spangles 50% normals. Some cocks will be split opaline.

 

Is this correct?

 

One of the chicks from this pairing has small patches of blue but the rest is white, kind of like a df dom pied or somthing. He cant be dom pied because no parent shows the gene, but he could be recessive pied?

 

Here are some pictures

 

 

 

 

What do you think?

Yup. All cocks will be split Opaline though. The Light Green is already split for Blue as you have produced a blue bird. As for the pied. I can only say Recessive Pied at this point.

Do the parents have a pied patch on their heads? Birds split recessive pied usually (but not always) have a pied patch of clear feathers on the head.

do u have a 08 ring on it??

White down usually means Opaline. The Cock could be split opaline. Let me know if i'm right?

Thankyou all for the help.

Ripbudgies, I am thinking they could be recessive pied also, but that would mean that both parents need to be split rec pied... pretty odd chances.

 

Shannon, That is a pet ring because this baby is a pet bird. I only ring my show budgies with 09 rings.

 

Daz, Could that baby be an opaline? I did not know opalines had white back feathers like that with little wing markings. Chances of it being opaline are higher than recessive pied.

 

Thanks all for the help.

well the hen is a spangle which has much pied breeding into the line from the start (check to see if she had a head spot)

 

there is one or two feathers down near the bottom of the wing showing spangle markings. let some feathers show some more to be sure. but for now I would lean towards Rec pied

Daz, Could that baby be an opaline? I did not know opalines had white back feathers like that with little wing markings. Chances of it being opaline are higher than recessive pied.

 

 

Time will tell.

The chick is recessive pied, that means that both parents are split for recessive pied. Not all birds that are split for recessiuve pied have a head spot. It is quite possible for it to be opaline as well

Opaline Normal

That chick has alot more markings than mine, what do you think mine is *nerwen*?

I think your chick is a lightly marked recessive pied.

So Do I kaz. I Hope he is.

 

Thankyou.

Edited March 15, 200916 yr by Pearce

your chick i think is Rec. pied as others and myself stated above. I shared the pictures to show the white down feathers that Daz was talking about. She had normal wing markings.

okay yeah the down feathers are the fluffy feathers on the birds back right? do only opaline birds get that white down feather? What if the bird is green series?

 

Thankyou.

Edited March 15, 200916 yr by Pearce

okay yeah the down feathers are the fluffy feathers on the birds back right? do only opaline birds get that white down feather? What if the bird is green series?

 

Thankyou.

The down of a normal is grey. The down of an opaline is white. Look back through all your old baby photos Pearce and you may spot some that show this.

that's right, pieds can get some white down as well and INO's will get it as well.

any new photos off him

ill take one tomorow shannon.

ill take one tomorow shannon.

 

Any chance of posting pics here of the parents Pearce? You've stated the hen is Spangle Opaline Light and the cock is Sky blue. Looking at the photo I see a pied of some form and Opaline, but I also see Violet feathers around the rump! Meaning that the parents you've listed could not be his parents as you can't get Violets from Light Green X Sky Blue.

 

Then again, the Violet I see could just be colour shift in my display

 

On another note, the down of a Pied is also white.

Edited March 17, 200916 yr by Daryl

Yes I will post the parents aswell daryl.

They are pet type birds and I do not know what they are masking or split for.

Edited March 18, 200916 yr by Pearce

The colour looks violet to me, as daryl suggested.

 

 

 

 

Pet parents

 

 

 

Edited March 18, 200916 yr by Pearce

The colour looks violet to me, as daryl suggested.

 

 

 

 

Pet parents

 

 

 

 

Tricky little blighter! okay, here's my go. The baby (a girl) has Cinnamon, Opaline, Violet, maybe also Pied and maybe also Spangle. All will be revealed in a week or so. Still a bit hard to say for certain yet for me.

 

The mother is where the Violet has come from. Her body colour appears to be Dark Green but it's probably Violet Light Green. So she'd be a Spangle Opaline Violet Light Green. She may also be Cinnamon, it's a bit hard to tell on my monitor. I'd guess not however.

agree IF the chick is violet (not 100% convinced on that yet) the mother has the gene, if not then she is dark green meaning she has one dark factor gene.

 

The baby (a girl) has Cinnamon, Opaline, Violet, maybe also Pied and maybe also Spangle

I don't see opaline signs (there isn't a v of colour showing on the back and there are markings in that space as well)

Pied- yes the recessive signs are showning more now

spangle - yes the marks are showing up as spangle, as stated before

cinnamon - the marks on the wings do look brownish... but the head bars are black. it could just be poor markings on the wings but time will show for that.

Very cute!

 

I'm going with Opaline, Rec pied, Spangle, Cobalt (or MAYBE violet). Genetically there is a possibility it's a cock as the hen is an opaline spangle and if cock is split opaline there is the chance for opaline cock babies (although it kinda looks like a she at this early stage).

 

I would have said hen is dark green rather than light green violet making colbalt more likely than violet sky. Opaline as the head markings are not the real barring of a normal but the striations of an opaline. Spangle markings are just evident.

 

Not cinnamon - head markings are black and spangles appear grey rather than brown (although it's hard to tell 100% for sure in the photo).