Hi.

 

I am going to renew all my medications over this weekend, which means going to a vet and going on vetafarm.

 

I am going to get : Triple c, Avicycline, coccivet. Crop needles.

 

Is their anything else I should get while I'm out? Also post where is the best place to get it from.

 

Thanks very much.

I would say Ronivet - S. Ask your vet

you dont need to get both Triple c and Avicycline - they are one in the same, but triple c is better.

I'd also ask your vet for Doxycliclone. Worth renewing as well is wormer.

okay Thankyou all.

 

I have ronivet-s and will ask the vet for doxycycline. I will only get triple c. Anything else you can reccomend?

You are unlikely to get doxycycline and you shouldn't be using it without a prescription either.

Doxycycline goes off over time and needs to be kept in the fridge anyway, so if you don't need it straight away, then don't get it. Plus you shouldn't need it unless you have birds that are sick anyway. And because it is stored in the fridge it is not something that I would be wanting to get on my food.

Edited March 13, 200916 yr by Sailorwolf

I'm only looking for things that I can stick in the cabinet and use if I ever get a sick bird. I do not have any birds that are sick at the moment.

Yeah, well you can't stick doxycycline in the cabinet, it needs refridgerating (either once it is made up or as soon as you get it)

Edited March 13, 200916 yr by Sailorwolf

You are unlikely to get doxycycline and you shouldn't be using it without a prescription either.

Doxycycline goes off over time and needs to be kept in the fridge anyway, so if you don't need it straight away, then don't get it. Plus you shouldn't need it unless you have birds that are sick anyway. And because it is stored in the fridge it is not something that I would be wanting to get on my food.

I keep all my meds in the fridge. The doxy is in a jar so it doesn't spill. It comes with an expiry date, which I respect.

You should be careful how and when you treat your birds as to give them antibiotics or penicillin van build their Resistance to it.

I only treat my birds when sick and I prefer to try something like SULPHA D product before using the hard stuff.

I dont treat my birds until they are sick and it has been diagnosed by a vet. Too many people have told me that if you treat birds for somthing they dont have, it mucks around with their immune system. I am just looking for some things so if I do get a sick bird I can treat it.

By the time you realise they are sick with canker, it is too late

 

Canker is one of those diseases that wild birds carry and spread

 

by treating for one week, 4 times a year, you solve the problems

It doesn't mess around with their immune system, it increases the resistance of the bacteria, making them harder to kill. Thus when (and I mean when not if) they spread on to a human and make the human sick, those bacteria will be much harder to kill and may even not be able to be killed, becoming what is called a 'super bug' and resulting in that person's death. All people who use antibiotics willy nilly are contibuting to this. The more people who are irresponsible with antibiotics the more deaths will result from resistant bacteria in the future.

Thanks to this situation I have to deal with not being able to save people's pets in the future, because they caught a resistant bug, I may even have to deal with myself catching a resistant bug for the same reason.

Now you can understand why I feel this way about antibiotics.

Edited March 15, 200916 yr by Sailorwolf

So when you get new birds that show no signs of disease, do you treat them with a preventative medication?

That is very interesting thankyou sailorwolf.

I don't

okay Neither do I, thanks for all the help everyone.

okay Neither do I, thanks for all the help everyone.

A couple of week ends ago representatives from WA's 3 budgie clubs convened for a bar-b-que and a talkfest also attended by Peter Glassonbury from SA. At that talkfest Peter indicated that he did quarentine his birds but didn't use preventative medicine. He then went on to recall a time he introduced a quarentined bird into his aviary and then watched while his other birds dropped like flies while 'the carrier' continued to exhibit excellent health. However, when he introduced it into the breeding cabinet it dropped dead, ravaged by disease.

 

Food for thought. :happy-dancing:

Theirs downsides to not giving preventative medication and downsides to giving preventative medication. We just need to work out which downside is greater.

.... you've convinced me. I'm not going to get my flu shots this winter because I haven't got the flu..... thank you in advance for my health this winter.

Edited March 15, 200916 yr by Daz

Immunisation is completely different to prophylactic medication, Daz. You don't create superbugs by boosting your own immune system. You do it by trying to kill something that probably isn't there.

Edited March 15, 200916 yr by Chrysocome

But isn't iminisation the introduction of the desease into the imune system so that it can build up antibodies against the pure strain.

 

...and isn't the use of broad band antibiotics the way that the body can cleans it's self of any harmful Pathogen's that the birds may have?

But isn't iminisation the introduction of the desease into the imune system so that it can build up antibodies against the pure strain.

 

...and isn't the use of broad band antibiotics the way that the body can cleans it's self of any harmful Pathogen's that the birds may have?

 

My thoughts exactly. :happy-dancing:

I don't

I agree with you Sailerwolf,on this one,there is to much meds used,

thats why you have to go to the Vet now,to get meds,that you could buy

off the shelf,because people were doseing there animals,when they did,t need it,

or with the wrong meds.Half the people that come on here are killing there

birds,by doing what they think,they should do.

Their will always be people on different sides of the argument. personally I dont know which is better, I just listen to the advice I get from the forum. Next time I see the vet I will ask him what he reccomends, their will always be a difference of opinion .

.......... I believe that knowledge is the way to go. If you are not fully informed on what you are doing. DON'T DO IT.

 

I have to agree that many people use to much medications with out knowing why. If you ask yourself .. why am I doing this, and eithert can't come up with a difinative answer than don't do it. I feed a lot of medication to my birds to make them better to find out they were better off with out it, and they proved it by breeding better when they were off the meds.