Who on here has the fair dinkum bush budgie. I don't mean the small pet type that resembles the bush budgie. I mean the real macoy.

I need somebody to photograph the markings of them. I need to try find out if the marking type mutated in captivity or exists naturally in the wild population. Who ever can help me out please PM and I'll let you know what to look for.

I have two, will PM you

there was someone breeding them, wasn't there... I am sure someone on here has a breeding journal for their bush budgies... can't think who right now though, sorry!

Jwancia bred hers but I *believe* she got them via the pet shop she works at so the history was a little uncertain (I recall the baby had a bit of a blue tinge that led to some doubts)

Trish has contact with someone who breeds bush budgies too.

I heard that a bush budgie must be caught in the bush, and any babies bred in captivity will not be proper bush budgies. Is this incorrect?

there are some breeders around australia that caught them in the wild years ago and have been breeding them ever since... I believe they have had some mutations occur but they get rid of them and the parents pretty quickly so that they keep the bush budgie look happening...

If the bush budgie lines are pure then mutations should never occur, unless they are an effect of close inbreeding breeding??

Swan Valley birds had some bush budgies there last time I was there a week ago

Swan Valley birds had some bush budgies there last time I was there a week ago

Kaz I don't really trust pet shops etc to have what they say they have. Reason is that unless the law has changed somewhat very few people held licenses to go and capture wild stock of any species, especially in WA. Besides I am not after buying them as I need too many for the research I am trying to carry out.

If the bush budgie lines are pure then mutations should never occur, unless they are an effect of close inbreeding breeding??

Liv, I am sorry but that statement is just not true. Mutations have been spotted in the wild many times. Infact on Christmas Day in Canberra in the southern suburbs a yellow, Yellow-tailed Black Cockatoo was seen and photographed amongst a flock. Mutations in wild stock appear regularly but not all are adapted for survival usually due to lack of camoflague. The mutation I am looking for in not a colour one but a marking related one. I know it is in the captive show type stock. I am trying to find out if it exists at all in the wild stock.

there are some breeders around australia that caught them in the wild years ago and have been breeding them ever since... I believe they have had some mutations occur but they get rid of them and the parents pretty quickly so that they keep the bush budgie look happening...

JB that is the type of dedicated people I need. If the stock is not pure it taints the results.

Rockypoint Aviaries: Greg Brandon breeder of mutation eastern rosellas, princess parrots, green cheek conures, moustache, major mitchells, alexandrines, bush budgies. Ph: 02 6742 2057

 

This is one of the guys I was talking about. He's in Northern NSW from memory... Good luck with the research...

 

hope it helps...

When I got Smokey, my husband took me out to Kellyville Pets to choose him. They were pretty good and were able to tell me a bit about the breeder he had come from before I took him home. At that time they also had a cage of bush budgies... perhaps you could contact them and see if they can provide you with some contacts?

 

http://www.kellyvillepets.com.au

Swan Valley birds had some bush budgies there last time I was there a week ago

Kaz I don't really trust pet shops etc to have what they say they have. Reason is that unless the law has changed somewhat very few people held licenses to go and capture wild stock of any species, especially in WA. Besides I am not after buying them as I need too many for the research I am trying to carry out.

 

These are bush budgies from a local breeder. He also sells at the Avicultural Society we and you are a member of....you may be able to contact the bush budgie breeder through the club. I wasnt suggesting you buy any from Swan Valley, but they are there to look at. Swan Valley isnt exactly a petshop.

Edited March 5, 200916 yr by KAZ

If the bush budgie lines are pure then mutations should never occur, unless they are an effect of close inbreeding breeding??

Liv, I am sorry but that statement is just not true. Mutations have been spotted in the wild many times. Infact on Christmas Day in Canberra in the southern suburbs a yellow, Yellow-tailed Black Cockatoo was seen and photographed amongst a flock. Mutations in wild stock appear regularly but not all are adapted for survival usually due to lack of camoflague. The mutation I am looking for in not a colour one but a marking related one. I know it is in the captive show type stock. I am trying to find out if it exists at all in the wild stock.

 

That is really interesting... i am looking forward to your research findings

Swan Valley birds had some bush budgies there last time I was there a week ago

Kaz I don't really trust pet shops etc to have what they say they have. Reason is that unless the law has changed somewhat very few people held licenses to go and capture wild stock of any species, especially in WA. Besides I am not after buying them as I need too many for the research I am trying to carry out.

 

These are bush budgies from a local breeder. He also sells at the Avicultural Society we and you are a member of....you may be able to contact the bush budgie breeder through the club. I wasnt suggesting you buy any from Swan Valley, but they are there to look at. Swan Valley isnt exactly a petshop.

 

Petshop is not quite the correct term, I know just couldn't think of anything else at the time. Swan Valley is just to far to go at this time. As you know money is tight and the past weekend used up a lot of my petrol budget for the next month. March/April is a busy time for me.

 

Those places that sell birds are not always up to speed on stuff and at the end of the day are there to make money. It is not uncommon for them to advertise small green budgies as bush budgies. It is done all the time but I bet if they were challenged they could not provide proof. If I went in to buy a "bush budgie" then that is exactly what I want. Not a look-a-like small pet type. It is false advertising and they can be fined.

 

The ultimate answer to my query is simple but unobtainable. If I had the money and the appropriate licenses I would head out bush, trap a flock of budgies and systamatically work through about a 500 to a 1,000 of them making notes of what I was looking for and taking photos. I only need to find one bird with what I am looking for to get my answer.