thank you so much nubbly for your pictures of the feathers

im sure its got to be french molt

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mannnnnnnnnnn i thought i did everything right

i did how ever spend the whole day today cleaning my aviary down and i vacuumed it all out hosed it then swept it i also moved it as it was in wrong place

my dad and i spent all day he made wheels for it then we bolted them on and moved it then removed them again

i took out every branch, perch and the flooring

on Tuesday im getting paves for inside it and new branches and perches

as for the baby's with it well im unsure what to do with them they not to bad and three look okay now

i didnt get time for pics but i defenently will put some up showing my poor bubs

 

vet told me to move them out of the way of my other birds so i have i wont breeding for a while as im

a bit unsure of how this happened and i will be looking over my stock very close to see if i can see sighns in any of my older birds possably having it

 

thanks all for your help

Don't despair. Isolate the affected chicks and IF YOU CAN give them a course of doxy.

thank you so much nubbly for your pictures of the feathers

im sure its got to be french molt

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mannnnnnnnnnn i thought i did everything right

i did how ever spend the whole day today cleaning my aviary down and i vacuumed it all out hosed it then swept it i also moved it as it was in wrong place

my dad and i spent all day he made wheels for it then we bolted them on and moved it then removed them again

i took out every branch, perch and the flooring

on Tuesday im getting paves for inside it and new branches and perches

as for the baby's with it well im unsure what to do with them they not to bad and three look okay now

i didnt get time for pics but i defenently will put some up showing my poor bubs

 

vet told me to move them out of the way of my other birds so i have i wont breeding for a while as im

a bit unsure of how this happened and i will be looking over my stock very close to see if i can see sighns in any of my older birds possably having it

 

thanks all for your help

Don't despair. Isolate the affected chicks and IF YOU CAN give them a course of doxy.

 

i am not disheartening to point of , why me ,however i am sad my first show breed birds come out affected with this

i am not going to doxy as you doxy for psittacosis

my birds have nothing wrong with them i got a vet out to my birds renee and did smears and crop

their all got the okay that was only last month

my vet told me dont doxy unless nececery

i know every one on here loves doxy but im not of the same opinion

yes i have had a bad start to showing

but no my birds do not need doxy

yes i have isolated chicks as was advised by vet to do so

and have started cleaning the cabinets one by one and will pack up for while i think

Edited October 31, 200915 yr by KAZ

Dont worry GB. Sometimes happens especially when you buy in stock from different places so you can cop it when you go off trying to improve the stock you've got. All that needs to happen is that you buy in from a stud that has active FM (might even be a low level that they put up with). I have been told by several breeders that they get a few FMs a year all the time - so I interpret that as the virus still being active in the stud (especially if they breed year round).

 

It's something that does tend to happen and it's nothing that you have done or not done. Adult birds will often have the virus and not be affected at all. they just bring it in a shed it to your birds and if there are chicks present - off it goes. It's a bummer and a pain - no more than that. Consider it like your stud getting the flu - sometimes (unless you have a completely closed flock) it's gonna happen. We try not to let it happen but you never know when you buy in birds.

 

It's good that you are finishing breeding soon though. Just let them run their course, deal with whatever FM comes along and then when all are out of nests and weaned, give everything a good clean. I would then do another disinfection clean before starting up again - spraying with a good antiviral. Give it a 6 month break and all should be okay. Not sure that isolating chicks is necessary to be honest - if you think about it, the virus came from somewhere (if it's FM) and affected the chicks. My bet is that you have an adult bird there that is still shedding virus. So which one and how do you find it? The virus is known to spread in poo, mucous, feather dust - so I would be pretty certain that it's already spread anyway - unless you are keeping each cabinet in a completely seperate environment and then doing a complete personal disinfect between dealing with each.

 

I don't think doxy helps at all in this situation - doxy is an antibiotic that is particularly useful against psittacosis but no antibiotic treatment is effective agains virus'. They may be useful if the chicks are showing secondary signs of illness but otherwise not something I would bother with. In this I agree totally with the vet.

 

And not eveyone here loves Doxy, some of us just see it as a useful tool to help in the health management of their flock (me!). In fact the whole daily treatment thing gives me the willies but I've seen much improved results since doing a yearly pre-breeding treatment.

 

As for the babies, just wait and let them recover. Flights and tails often grow back without any issues at all and you would be hard pushed to identify many FM babies later in their life. Some of them don't grow back their feathers properly and these ones I would cull out. If you have nudies these rarely recover and I cull them immediately. Keep them in a nappy cage together if you can and just keep an eye on them.

Edited November 1, 200915 yr by nubbly5

GB what nubby says.

 

As I said earlier I have picked up 4 birds with FM. I always had it around. It will always been around. Each year I used to get a couple of FM birds but nothing like when I started off in the first place.

 

I am not a Doxy fan either. As nubbly said it is an antibiotic there fore not suitable for virus control. I do not reach for drugs for birds (or even myself) as a cure all. Prevention on a yearly basis is fine. Good feed, clean water and healthy living conditions go along way to a healthy vibrant flock.