Here's a picture, I can't get one of her back as she isn't actually my bird, I'm asking for a friend. I'm pretty sure she's a Cobalt/Violet YF1..is she? Is she anything else? (I don't believe the flash was used in the picture, not sure)

yeah i think your right

yes, a yellow face type 1 cobalt hen

Okay thank you.

I agree with Liv. The only thing I'm not sure of is that it looks like the flash was used (the light in her eyes) and I know that when flash is used on my Sky blue birds they look this color. So if not Cobalt as Liv has stated.... I'm gonna say YF1 Sky Blue Hen. If you can take another picture knowing the flash wasn't used that would be great.

I agree with Liv. The only thing I'm not sure of is that it looks like the flash was used (the light in her eyes) and I know that when flash is used on my Sky blue birds they look this color. So if not Cobalt as Liv has stated.... I'm gonna say YF1 Sky Blue Hen. If you can take another picture knowing the flash wasn't used that would be great.

 

 

I'm looking after her for a friend at the moment, she got dropped off today..In person, she definetly looks like a DF Violet YF1. One strange thing, her iris rings are not white, but a dark gold colour, and she's like 1 and 1/2 years old. Why is this?

are you sure she is that old? Some birds develop quicker than others... and also it can make a difference if they have been inside all their life... or so I've read...

are you sure she is that old? Some birds develop quicker than others... and also it can make a difference if they have been inside all their life... or so I've read...

 

 

Yes. She is most definitely over 6 months, (as this is as long as she's been owned so far) and had done her first moult before she was even bought..

I thought you said she was over one year possibly one and a half years old... must of misread...

 

If you are saying that she is definately over 6 months old then I wouldn't be worried at all. some birds don't have white iris rings until they are over 1 year old...

I thought you said she was over one year possibly one and a half years old... must of misread...

 

If you are saying that she is definately over 6 months old then I wouldn't be worried at all. some birds don't have white iris rings until they are over 1 year old...

 

 

She looked about 4-6 months, maybe older, when she was bought, and now she's been owned for another 6 so she is around a year, approximately. She does have very easy to see iris rings..they are like an adult's ones, except gold coloured, they are quite bright. So you think this is just because she may be younger than 1 year, or not very much older than that?

Some birds have grey iris rings, some have white, some have none. It is not a big issue unless you are planning on breeding the bird now, which you are not.

 

Usually a white iris ring is the indicator being old enough to breed, of course coupled with the correct colour and condition of the cere, and condition generally of feathers.

Some birds have grey iris rings, some have white, some have none. It is not a big issue unless you are planning on breeding the bird now, which you are not.

 

Usually a white iris ring is the indicator being old enough to breed, of course coupled with the correct colour and condition of the cere, and condition generally of feathers.

 

 

Okay then, so the gold colour just means she's not old enough to breed? It's just that I've never heard of that before so I was wondering why she's like that. I've heard about the grey iris rings, white, or none, but not gold. Could the fact she is a yellowface1 have something to do with that? (just a thought)

Edited January 15, 200916 yr by Jen144

The yellow appearance is most likely due to the reflection of the yellow feathers on the white iris ring.

The yellow appearance is most likely due to the reflection of the yellow feathers on the white iris ring.

 

 

I suppose that could be it. But, I have a yf2 in my aviary, and he has very white iris rings..and he's only 4-5 months.

Birds have different coloured irises like humans do. Some of my birds have grey iris rings and are 3 years old, others have white and are younger.

do you have a close up picture of the iris ring? I'm really curious to see it now...

do you have a close up picture of the iris ring? I'm really curious to see it now...

 

 

Not at the moment, I'll try to get one later. My camera is not that good, so I might not be able to though.

I reckon your bird is a Double Factor Goldenface(YF2). There is just too much yellow in the tail for it to be a Single Factor Yellowface Mutant 1 (YF1).

Edited January 16, 200916 yr by RIPbudgies

No that is definitely not a Goldenface.

Look at my signature.

The "green" bird with Arkady under his picture is a Goldenface. He looked almost exactly like a bright green bird. I know he is a goldenface as he was blue when I first bought him.

 

This is Arkady; a goldenface:

Edited January 16, 200916 yr by Sailorwolf

okay if you don't mind i am going to say something dumb and nauty. That bird is blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No that is definitely not a Goldenface.

Look at my signature.

The "green" bird with Arkady under his picture is a Goldenface. He looked almost exactly like a bright green bird. I know he is a goldenface as he was blue when I first bought him.

 

This is Arkady; a goldenface:

 

 

Your bird Arkady is a SINGLE FACTOR Goldenface. A DOUBLE FACTOR Goldenface does not look anything like your bird. Don't forget also your bird is Sky Blue the one on this thread is Cobalt. The Goldenface was one of the varieties that I specialised in for 20 years. How about yourself. How long have you specialised in Goldenfaces?

Edited January 19, 200916 yr by RIPbudgies

I have never specialised in Goldenfaces. I was going on what I had learned from the forum, which as the current yellowface vs goldenface topic has thrown up, is that, none of us are very clear on it.

My statement was not an insult to your intelligence, so I am confused as to why you took it that way. You did not specify that you were a goldenface specialist. How am I supposed to know?

Personally, I don't yet have time to breed any birds, due to my studies, but would like to, sometime in the future.

No that is definitely not a Goldenface.

Look at my signature.

The "green" bird with Arkady under his picture is a Goldenface. He looked almost exactly like a bright green bird. I know he is a goldenface as he was blue when I first bought him.

 

This is Arkady; a goldenface:

 

I would definately say it is a single factor golden face cobalt (most likely b^gb²), possibly with some violet. I always find violet is very difficult to show in a photo. Going by pete burgmans article sailorwolf, your bird (arkady) would be a single factor golden face composite. Possibly B^gB^y2 or more likely b^gb¹.

Edited January 20, 200916 yr by Dean_NZ

Thanks Dean