January 6, 200916 yr Author Okay, Levi went in for his one week check up yesturday and it turns out he has a cracked brestbone. Maybe from a crash landing somewhere. But who knows. I also took my sick hen to the vet at the same time. Turns out she has MEGABACTERIA!!!! ARG. So she was put down yesturday too. Not happy at all
January 6, 200916 yr Oh no! That sounds very painful for Levi, what are they doing to treat it? Sorry to hear about your hen
January 7, 200916 yr Okay, Levi went in for his one week check up yesturday and it turns out he has a cracked brestbone. Maybe from a crash landing somewhere. But who knows. I also took my sick hen to the vet at the same time. Turns out she has MEGABACTERIA!!!! ARG. So she was put down yesturday too. Not happy at all Sorry to hear about this streak of unforunate events
January 7, 200916 yr I also took my sick hen to the vet at the same time. Turns out she has MEGABACTERIA!!!! ARG. So she was put down yesturday too. Not happy at all Jwancia, Mega is very treatable and - unfortunately - contagious as well. I don't understand why your vet euthanized the affected bird, and I really don't understand why the vet didn't give you treatment for the rest of your flock. There's a really good pinned topic on Mega which lists the various treatments available. The bird I had autopsied a few months back was ravaged by Mega and since that time I have been very scrupulous about treating my flock and any new birds. The antibiotic I use is FUNGILIN which you add to their drinking water at a rate of 1ml/100ml for 7 days.
January 7, 200916 yr Author She was put down because she was too far gone. She had a less than 20% chance. The megabacteria treatment takes 10 days to take effect so the birds are literally starving for that 10 days before the gut heals. She wasnt going to survive that 10 days. The only way to treat my flock would be to crop needle each one day and night. That means catching every birds twice a day for 30 day. Plus the treatment costs about $60 per bird. Also my hygiene practices are very good- little contamination between birds. In a month we are going to do a combined feacal smear to make sure none of the others are carriers. In terms of levi's fracture. He doesnt need the antibiotics anymore. Its healing my itself. A check up in a month
January 7, 200916 yr The only way to treat my flock would be to crop needle each one day and night. That means catching every birds twice a day for 30 day. Plus the treatment costs about $60 per bird. Also my hygiene practices are very good- little contamination between birds. In a month we are going to do a combined feacal smear to make sure none of the others are carriers. No, that is not correct. I have just bought 100ml of Fungilin for $75.00 which you add to their drinking water at a rate of 1ml/100ml for 7 days. I give each of my 3 aviaries 200ml of treated water every day for the 7 days. That equates to 42ml total.
January 7, 200916 yr The only way to treat my flock would be to crop needle each one day and night. That means catching every birds twice a day for 30 day. Plus the treatment costs about $60 per bird. Also my hygiene practices are very good- little contamination between birds. In a month we are going to do a combined feacal smear to make sure none of the others are carriers. No, that is not correct. I have just bought 100ml of Fungilin for $75.00 which you add to their drinking water at a rate of 1ml/100ml for 7 days. I give each of my 3 aviaries 200ml of treated water every day for the 7 days. That equates to 42ml total. I agree with Renee I am so pleased that Levi is getting better :bluebudgie:
January 7, 200916 yr Author I doubt funglin would work against Megabacteria honestly. For one it sounds like a fungal treatment not a bacterial treatment. Im not going to second guess my vet. He is very recognized and competent.
January 7, 200916 yr I doubt funglin would work against Megabacteria honestly. For one it sounds like a fungal treatment not a bacterial treatment. Im not going to second guess my vet. He is very recognized and competent. You need to read up on MEGABACTERIA.............despite its name it is now known to be not bacterial. PS HOWEVER I totally understand about the vet putting the bird down. At a certain poiint what has occurred is irreversible and then bird will die. Your vet knew that in this case. I would also be treating the rest of the flock. Renee's source for the fungillin and her information is spot on right :bluebudgie: Edited January 7, 200916 yr by KAZ
January 7, 200916 yr I agree, Fungilin is a VERY effective treatment. Edited January 7, 200916 yr by **Liv**
January 7, 200916 yr I doubt funglin would work against Megabacteria honestly. For one it sounds like a fungal treatment not a bacterial treatment. Im not going to second guess my vet. He is very recognized and competent. When you read the pinned Megabacteria topic you will learn that Mega is a yeast. Some months ago I took a sick bird to the vet, and he is an excellent avian vet, and he treated her with Baytril. When I picked her up I inquired about treating the whole flock and he told me it would cost a small fortune due to the cost of the antibiotic, in this case Baytril. In fact the bill for that visit itemized the treatment at $50. Now you need to understand that vets need to make money. I chose on that occasion to contact Rob Marshall and purchase the Baytril direct and I paid $44 for 25mls. I treated my birds and have peace of mind. Edited January 7, 200916 yr by renee
January 7, 200916 yr Thank you. Ill look into it :bluebudgie: Rob Marshall's tel No: 02 9871-6036/ Carlingford Animal Hospital, 772 Pennant Hills Rd, Carlingford, NSW. (they are closed today). No matter how clean your aviaries are Mega is one of those nasties that is too easily transmittable from bird to bird.
January 7, 200916 yr Author Okays I have just been talking to colin, he said the thing is with budgie is they dont drink enough to get the required dose into them per-day. Colin said their is no point doing it cause it wont work and will cost you a fortune! I brought another bird into him today that had a stained vent (i am on hyper alert at the moment) and a avairy fecal sample. Colin looked at my other bird and did 2 fecal smears. They were all clear. He was very impressed that there was not a single mega or ANY OTHER sort of nasty. The hen was nothing to be concerned about. Colin is a kind man who is very aware of peoples finances. He didnt charge me any consultation today. Just 16.50 for the poo smears. He is a kind man - not a money hungry vet
January 7, 200916 yr Okays I have just been talking to colin, he said the thing is with budgie is they dont drink enough to get the required dose into them per-day. Colin said their is no point doing it cause it wont work and will cost you a fortune! No, that is again incorrect. Especially during the hot weather budgies do drink. If you are worried about them getting enough of the antibiotics into their system try the following: Day 1: No water Day 2: medicated water Day 3: No water Day 4: medicated water and so on It may take you double the time but rest assured you birds WILL be cured. As I have indicated earlier in other posts, it does not need to cost you a fortune. But of course you can do as you please. Just remember that by the time you have forked out only $16.50 for poo smears for 8 birds you could have purchased enough Fungilin to treat your birds many times over (and by the way, you can purchase it in smaller containers).
January 7, 200916 yr Author He did a poo smear on ALL my birds for 16.50. As I said, They do not get enough into them per day to be treated properly! Either way they dont have it.
January 7, 200916 yr Sorry for the misunderstanding, I thought you said he did 2 poo smears on one other bird. Great news none of the other birds are infected. Edited January 7, 200916 yr by renee
January 7, 200916 yr Megabacteria is a yeast which is a type of fungus. He is a kind man - not a money hungry vet I don't know if I should be, but I'm kind of offended by that comment. Vets don't get the government paying for half their stuff like human doctors and GPs do. That's why we have to charge. There are no government subsidies for vet medicine as there are for human medicine. A lot of vets actually go out of business because they don't charge their clients enough because they feel bad. I don't know if that was out of place and I read that in the wrong tone or not, but that's how I read it. Edited January 7, 200916 yr by Sailorwolf
January 7, 200916 yr Megabacteria is a yeast which is a type of fungus. He is a kind man - not a money hungry vet I don't know if I should be, but I'm kind of offended by that comment. Vets don't get the government paying for half their stuff like human doctors and GPs do. That's why we have to charge. There are no government subsidies for vet medicine as there are for human medicine. A lot of vets actually go out of business because they don't charge their clients enough because they feel bad. I don't know if that was out of place and I read that in the wrong tone or not, but that's how I read it. Keep your hat on SW, I think she was more likely retorting to what I said in an earlier post. Ie, "Now you need to understand that vets need to make money."
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