This is my IDEAL dream budgie. I wanna know:

a) what mutation/s it is?

what pairs you could put together to get this type of budgie

c) any other tips?

I'm about to breed some very similiar to those Jess once my crested girl finishes quarantine. It is a violet recessive pied I would say.

 

The person that took that photo was lucky to get the violet to come out so well in a photo, I'll see if I can find pics of the ones I have

 

 

Just looked at the picture again and realised it has a pied spot so maybe a young dom pied which hasn't yet got it's iris rings

 

 

This is the under tail of my recessive pied male

 

gonna put him with this crested hen who is the same colouring as the one you put above but just with a higher proportion of white area

Edited December 20, 200816 yr by melbournebudgies

She is devine! We got 30 violet birds in at work today. I took dibbs on the best this morning

Id say violet recessive pied female. I think you can get a violet recessive pied by breeding 2 violet recessive pieds together? Other than that I have no idea.

Id say violet recessive pied female. I think you can get a violet recessive pied by breeding 2 violet recessive pieds together? Other than that I have no idea.

If you breed two violet recessive pieds together to get a violet recessive pied, then dont you already have two violet recessive pieds ?

 

Anyway JW get the best visual violet you have and breed it with another violet or cobalt pied or split recessive pieds if you have no violet or cobalt recessives.

 

That photo belongs to a man called Pass and some photos are slightly touched up to show a better shade of violet.

Hahaha I should have known this would be confusing!

 

Im getting to pied birds tomorrow. One is violet and one is grey. They produced all normal violets.

Anyways I will post pictures of them tomorrow (I keep going to write tomoz, how bad of me!). Just want to know what I should keep an eye out for to get the above type of bird.

good luck with it Jess.

First things first. What a lovely bird.

 

I think the bird is either a heavily variegated Danish or the loveliest Dutch Pied I've seen in years.

The bird is still a baby so it makes it hard to tell and plus I can't get hold of it to check the eyes.

If you look really close at a Danish eye it is not completly black

 

It is not an Australian Dominant Pied. I am leaning to Dutch Pied. Looking at the marking it has the typical frosting seen in Dutch Pied when presented in Normal i.e. non Opaline.

 

To get a Dutch, easy go buy one mate to Normal 50% of young will be Dutch but I warn you now the pied pattern is highly variable.

 

To get a Danish mate two together get 100% Danish.

 

Violet is a Cobalt with either one or two Violet factor. Get a Violet Sky Blue and Violet Mauve (if you can find them) and pair them together. You'll produce 50% Cobalt and 50% Violet Cobalt (visual Violet)

Edited December 20, 200816 yr by RIPbudgies

 

This is my IDEAL dream budgie. I wanna know:

a) what mutation/s it is?

what pairs you could put together to get this type of budgie

c) any other tips?

 

 

A very beautiful Recessive pied Violet Hen. Just about to come in to season.

 

For those wishing to breed for show this is not a good specimin of a recessive pied. The wing markings are too dark. There should be only 10% - 15% markings on the wings.

Id say violet recessive pied female. I think you can get a violet recessive pied by breeding 2 violet recessive pieds together? Other than that I have no idea.

If you breed two violet recessive pieds together to get a violet recessive pied, then dont you already have two violet recessive pieds ?

 

 

Yes but I dont see your point KAZ.

Jwancia asked:

what pairs you could put together to get this type of budgie

And I said if you pair 2 violet recessive pieds you could get violet recessive pied babies. Am I incorrect?

I'd Pair a Violet Sky /recessive Cock to a Recessive pied cobalt or Mauve hen.

You weren't wrong Pearce, Kaz was just saying that if you had already been able to buy two of them you wouldn't need to know how to breed that colour as you would already have it

Oh okay I see now. Sorry all.

I did a little surfing over at Pascal's page (origin of the photo) and took a trip to his photobucket.

 

He has apicture of a pied hen with a sky cock. This hen is a Dutch Pied has an eye ring not to mention the typical feather frosting and melanin distribution. He does not from what I can tell have a Danish in the place. The hen is shown feeding and Albino and in another nest box there is an Albino with a pied. In another more or same Albino's with pieds.

 

I will stick to my original assumption that it is a Dutch Pied.

I agree with RIPbudgies the hen is a Dutch pied not a recessive pied. This is a dominant gene so to breed one the mutation would need to show in one of the parents

Wow! Thanks for your help everyone. I think its gonna take me a while to get my head around it. lol

Wow I was getting really confused with this post as I thought it was a dominant pied not recessive, Thanks Neville you saved me from confusion. As i have those birds here,

Do you have Dutch pied or Australian Dominant pied jwancia? (I don't know the difference but apparently there is )

Edited December 21, 200816 yr by JimmyBanks

What are Dutch and Danish pieds? I only know what Dominant, Recessives and Clearflights are.

What are Dutch and Danish pieds? I only know what Dominant, Recessives and Clearflights are.

The Dutch pied looks very much like the continental clearflight pied but I'm assured that it is a different mutation. The Danish pied is another name for the recessive pied (they are also sometimes called harlequins)

Dutch Pied and Continental Clearflight are one and the same. Their also appeares to be a Frosting factor involved with I was reseaching before giving up the budgies. They are also highly variable in their variegation.

 

Danish Pied and Recessive Pied are one and the same. They were also referred to in the past as Harlequins. They do not have an iris ring. They are bred with Dutch Pieds to produce Dark Eyed Clears.

 

Dominant Pied also known as Australian Dominant Pied, Banded Pied and even Clearflighted Pied. They can be quite variable in their Variegation.

 

All three of these pieds can show a spot on the back of the head although with Danish it is almost never seen due to the heavy variagation.

Dominant Pieds pattern tend to be confined most of the time to the bottom half of the bird and the flights and tail feathers. Some show a band across the body and at one time were considered a seperate pied type as did the ones that showed clear-flights only (owned such a bird back in 1984). Dutch tends to keep the pied to the upper part of the body and the melanin has been reduced a fraction and sometimes gives flights the appearance similar to that of the Texas Clearbody. Danish is fairly consistent in the pied pattern distribution but on occasion I have seen some that almost looked like Normals.

 

 

To avoid confusion and in light of current research around the world by some very notable breeders I have always used Dutch, Danish or Recessive and Dominant Pied terms for the three mutations.

 

It must be remembered that just because a show standard says a bird must be something it does not necessarily mean that it is. A show standard is just that a standard by which to judge a bird. Not every bird can fit the class exactly if they did every body would be winners.