Well the day started poorly for me with two kids squarking at me like magpie chicks until my brain turned to mush. I then went to get in the car to pick up my husband from town after masters' swimming because I don't like him riding his bike home in the rain... and the kids left the door open and let our Toy Poodle out She took off like a missile because we got new neighbours and their pets yesterday, so she is unsettled, and of course the kids ran after her with me screaming in the background "Don't chase her, she'll think it's a game!" After an hour of driving around the streets squeeking her favourite toy with two kids in the backseat crying their eyes out, we finally found her! She'd had a great time, and run about a kilometre away from home.

 

I still needed to go back to town AGAIN to pick up groceries. My daughter decided to come with me .... and we came home with a budgie!

 

This sweet little bird seems very tame and lively BUT when I sprayed her with Pyrethrin I found that she's very thin and has a pooey bum :laughter: I've turned down so many gorgeous budgies lately just because they were male and now I make an impulse decision - I don't believe it!

 

I've got her quarantined with Supplements and Antibiotics in her water, and a warm light on as she's drying off - what else should I do?

 

ALSO, what mutation is she, how old do you think she is ..... and am I right that she is a girl?

She looks like a yellow face sky blue opaline cinnamon spangle. :laughter: I could be wrong on the cinnamon.

Edited December 13, 200816 yr by splat

Very good splat, you beat me too it.

 

I agree - Yellow face type 2 opaline sky blue cinnamon winged spangle hen. I think the fact that she is not as brightly coloured as she should be is due to the cinnamon.

She looks like a yellow face sky blue opaline cinnamon spangle. I could be wrong on the cinnamon.

 

 

Gee, thanks! Try saying that fast three times :28:

At least I got the YF2 and dilute I wanted - and female :laughter: Let's hope she gets better soon!

She's a cutie :laughter: Hope she gets rid of the pooey bum soon.

She's a cutie Hope she gets rid of the pooey bum soon.

 

Thanks....how to make a budgie nappy....hmmm.

She looks to be only a baby which may account part of her thinness, alot of babies are thin for a little while after fledgin until they learn to eat properly. She may have been taken to the shop a little early before she was fully weaned.

 

She is cinnamon NOT dilute The cinnamon dilutes the birds colour making them that washed out tone;)

She looks to be only a baby which may account part of her thinness, alot of babies are thin for a little while after fledgin until they learn to eat properly. She may have been taken to the shop a little early before she was fully weaned.

 

She is cinnamon NOT dilute The cinnamon dilutes the birds colour making them that washed out tone;)

 

Thanks MB, I'm starting to understand - I certainly could learn plenty more though! It's a bit of a shame to realise we won't get the dilute colouring from these two, but not the end of the world, their chicks should still be pretty. After seeing one of the photos posted on this sight I know that I aim to get a YF Violet Recessive Pied Female for our Sky Recessive Male - that might be getting hard to find!

Pity you aren'tin Melbourne, I might have been able to breed you one of theose I'm pretty sure I have a YF cobalt recessive pied cock and a visual violet recessive pied hen in the aviery

Pity you aren'tin Melbourne, I might have been able to breed you one of theose I'm pretty sure I have a YF cobalt recessive pied cock and a visual violet recessive pied hen in the aviery

 

Could you ask Santa to courier one to Narooma for me for Christmas? :28: I've been VERY GOOD !

Edited December 13, 200816 yr by 2budgies

Lovely girl.

I don't think spraying her with pyrethrin is a very good thing to do. What brand was it and what was it intended for? Pyrethrin poisoning is possible.

Lovely girl.

I don't think spraying her with pyrethrin is a very good thing to do. What brand was it and what was it intended for? Pyrethrin poisoning is possible.

 

 

Gee, I hope it's okay

I got it from the vet - Avitrol Bird Mite & Lice Spray - Pyrethrins are the active ingredients. It also has something to leave their feathers glossy. It is designed to be used as a preventative as well as a cure. I just spray them once for a new bird in quarantine to reduce the risk of spreading anything to the others. They haven't shown any ill effects from it. I have used the Avitrol brand Bird Wormer for years (on my Alexandrine until he flew away earlier this year) and thought it was a good brand.

 

I know Ivermectin is recommended on the forum, but my worry is that my husband is likely to get it mixed up with our Australian Shepherd's medications (Proban for ticks, Sentinel for intestinal & heartworm etc) and our dog has a fatal allergy to Ivermectin - as most collie breeds do. I'm too worried to have it in the house!

 

Is there anything you could suggest to help her pooey bum get better, and to fatten her up?

Whole egg is very good for getting them going if they are skinny. You can either use whole egg powder or boil an egg and mash the whole thing including the shell for her.

If it's from the vet then it is fine. I was just worried you might be spraying her with fly spray or something! (You never know!).

Yes. Collies aren't allergic to it as such, but rather they have something different in their blood brain barrier that lets ivermectin into their brain.

Ivermectin works on parasites by affecting their nerves and causing paralysis, whereby they can be expelled easily, can't hold on to the host any more or die from starvation etc. Because collie dogs (and any collie cross (and sometimes other dogs)) have a more permeable blood brain barrier to ivermectin than most other dogs, the ivermectin gets in their brain and paralyses them and they die from suffocation. So I definitely agree with your stance on not using ivermectin in your house. (I'm not sure if the same problem happens with other forms of avermectin (that is not a typo (original form begins with an 'a')), but it may be best to avoid moxidectin, avermectin and anything with 'ectin' in the title (I'm on holiday and don't have my notes with me ))

It is possible to save a collie dog that has had ivermectin. We were shown a case of a collie who ingested it. They kept him on life support and everyday he got a little better, but it took him 11 days of hospitalisation to recover (which is very expensive, but if you love your pooch... ), they just had to wait for the ivermectin to leave his system.

Because they are paralysed they cannot move the muscles in their ribcage or their diaphragm to breath, so they suffocate.

I just thought you might like to read a little more on that for interest's sake

If it's from the vet then it is fine. I was just worried you might be spraying her with fly spray or something! (You never know!).Yes. Collies aren't allergic to it as such, but rather they have something different in their blood brain barrier that lets ivermectin into their brain.Ivermectin works on parasites by affecting their nerves and causing paralysis, whereby they can be expelled easily, can't hold on to the host any more or die from starvation etc. Because collie dogs (and any collie cross (and sometimes other dogs)) have a more permeable blood brain barrier to ivermectin than most other dogs, the ivermectin gets in their brain and paralyses them and they die from suffocation. So I definitely agree with your stance on not using ivermectin in your house. (I'm not sure if the same problem happens with other forms of avermectin (that is not a typo (original form begins with an 'a')), but it may be best to avoid moxidectin, avermectin and anything with 'ectin' in the title (I'm on holiday and don't have my notes with me ))It is possible to save a collie dog that has had ivermectin. We were shown a case of a collie who ingested it. They kept him on life support and everyday he got a little better, but it took him 11 days of hospitalisation to recover (which is very expensive, but if you love your pooch... ), they just had to wait for the ivermectin to leave his system. Because they are paralysed they cannot move the muscles in their ribcage or their diaphragm to breath, so they suffocate.I just thought you might like to read a little more on that for interest's sake

Wow!!! Thanks for that Sailorwolf I found you info very interesting and helpful!Years ago we lost a beautiful Airedale Terrier to a secondary illness from a paralysis tick (only 18 months old) because her vet told us that she reacted badly to Proban - sadly the topical treatment didn't protect her well enough - it wasn't the tick that killed her but what it gave her. She deteriorated over a period of about 6 weeks, while we tried everything to save her! Then we got a beautiful Wemaraner, and lost him earlier his year - our vet suspected either snake bite or bloat as we found him dead in his kennel one morning with small blood spots on his hind leg and nose, and some vomit. We didn't even hear his usual groan or roll over that night - heard nothing! He was only 4 years old and just earnt his Endurance Title this year. We tried to do everything we could to spoil our dogs, but tragically lost two beautiful animals far too early. Now we have a rescued 2 year old Australian Shepherd (with three toes missing from being run over with a lawnmower) and he is gorgeous! He's had a really rough start, but now he's with us and we're spoiling him rotten! I guess what I'm trying to say is that having been heartbroken twice before, I AM TAKING NO CHANCES with this guy! Thanks for your info :thanks:

Whole egg is very good for getting them going if they are skinny. You can either use whole egg powder or boil an egg and mash the whole thing including the shell for her.

Thanks MB, will cook some egg this morning!

Aw. That is so sad. Sorry to hear about your babies.

You're welcome.

I have been living with 2 weimaraners for the last 2 years (my flatmate's dogs) and they have more titles in their name than I do or ever will!.

Aw. That is so sad. Sorry to hear about your babies.

You're welcome.

I have been living with 2 weimaraners for the last 2 years (my flatmate's dogs) and they have more titles in their name than I do or ever will!.

 

Weims are a bit like that...high achievers!

Hopefully our Australian Shepherd can get a few letters after his name too once we can convince him to keep his shoe on his injured paw! I know the kids loved tracking with our Airedale, I think our Aussie would love it too! ....and agility...Oh what fun! Thanks for the :budgiedance: chat!

You're welcome !