Hi all, haven't actually gotten around to taking pics of my flock yet.

 

I have 17 birds at the moment, including 5 chicks. They include:

 

Cocks:

Yellowface type 1 violet cobalt (possibly split for opaline, or has some suffision around neck area)

Normal Grey split blue (not sure of any dark factor) (Both are pictured below)

Yellowface type two opaline skyblue split ino (father of the 5 chicks, slight flecking, hoping the chicks wont have it)

Normal Light Green (Paired to dark green hen, about to lay)

Recessive pied Cinnamon sky blue **Pet type

Young Sky blue double factor violet spangle (at least single factor violet, but it is a gorgeous shade of bright yet light purple) **Pet type, purchased from pet shop today).

 

Hens:

Yellowface type 2 SF dominant pied grey split blue

Normal cobalt (possibly SF violet, or deeply coloured cobalt). Has suffusion of body colour up neck.

Opaline grey split for blue (mother of the five chicks)

Normal dark green (paired to light green, about to lay)

Opaline spangle cobalt (would like to pair it to the new violet spangle next year when he is older) **Pet type

Yellowface type one SF violet cobalt (wish she would pair up with the YF violet cock, but she only seems to respond to the YF2 opaline skyblue which is currently raising chicks )

 

Here is a recent picture of the 5 chicks and their parents as mentioned above:

 

Aside from the pet types, all the budgies are from showbreeders. They may not necessarily be the greatest of birds, but they have some good points and since i may be moving to australia or canada after finishing my degree in two years, im really more interested in gaining breeding and husbandry experience at the moment. Putting my theoretical genetics knowledge to test through breeding, trying out feeding programs and getting to know these wonderful birds better and better.

Edited December 8, 200816 yr by Dean_NZ

Love your Yellow Faces !!!!!!!!!

Love your Yellow Faces !!!!!!!!!

 

Thanks! I just wish the two yellowface violet cobalts would pair up. Instead the YF violet cobalt male spends all day kissing the normal grey. neither of them are hitting on the girls and the YF violet cobalt hen is totally ready to go down. ARG!

 

Guess thats the name of the game hey lol.

If you pair the two yellowfaces you will get df yellowfaces which actually have white faces ....correct ?

Great birds. I couldn't find one pet shop the whole time I was in Auckland, I was having budgie withdrawals lol.

If you pair the two yellowfaces you will get df yellowfaces which actually have white faces ....correct ?

 

I would have agreed with you a month ago, but i have been reading about the yellowface inheritances as per the opinion of Pete Burgman (linked). If i understand correctly, YF type one requires b1 and b2 blue genes which singly (ie b1/b1 or b2/b2) produce no yellow. However b1/b2 produces a type 1 yellow face. So theoretically there is no 'double factor yellow face type one', and therefore chicks of two type 1 yellow faces would theoretically (according to my understanding of Pete burgmans document, which i may not have fully grasped yet) be 25% b1/b1 (white faces), 25% b2/b2 (white faces) and 50% b1/b2 (yellow faces).

 

As i may not have yet grasped the full extent of petes writing, it does make sense to me in that two yellow faces should produce either all yellow faces or double factor yellow faces, but they dont. Usually they produce white faces, so pete's explanation is making sense to me at this point.

 

More on that later! Its movie time!

Love the cobalt yellowface. I've always wanted a cobalt that striking in colour.

 

But what about yellowface 2's?

 

JB There are at least 10 petshops that I can think of off the top of my head in Auckland right now. You just missed out. You should have pmed me and I would have directed you

It's sad when you know all of the pet shops off the top of your head isn't it.

Edited December 8, 200816 yr by Sailorwolf

Peter Bergman writes some very good articles

Im gonna be biased and say you should MOVE TO AUZ! Its amazing here.

Have you been here Jess?

I've been to Aus and while it is huge and has some awesome shops and stuff, it doesn't beat home. The people are different.

I'd say stay here, we like it when our grads stay. Although I can agree with you as I want to do some work in Aus, but only for a short time.

You aussies are also mean to kiwis living over there

Edited December 8, 200816 yr by Sailorwolf

Im gonna be biased and say you should MOVE TO AUZ! Its amazing here.

 

I hear that although the majority of the australian birds remain smaller (with exception to english imports), they retain brighter colours and more pure mutations (goldenface, opaline for example) in general.

 

As my preference (and future goal) is for breeding violets and to a larger extent rainbows (yellow/goldenface opaline whitewings, perhaps cinnamon, perhaps dom pied - i would like to experiment to find 'my' perfect rainbow composite) i had thought about getting australian birds or going to australia

Yea, I don't think you can import birds here any more. Which is sad.

Yea, I don't think you can import birds here any more. Which is sad.

 

Wow that does suck

I don't know if that is completely true, I'm not sure, but I think that is the case. It might pay to check it out with the proper authorities

Because you can import aussie dogs.

Edited December 8, 200816 yr by Sailorwolf

Have you been here Jess?

I've been to Aus and while it is huge and has some awesome shops and stuff, it doesn't beat home. The people are different.

I'd say stay here, we like it when our grads stay. Although I can agree with you as I want to do some work in Aus, but only for a short time.

You aussies are also mean to kiwis living over there

 

Well... what a post. Where do you start with this one... I can't... NZ reminded me of Australia in the 70's... as for us being mean to Kiwi's... what was on that Tshirt I saw, something like I go for 2 teams, New Zealand and anyone playing Australia

Hi and welcome to the forum Dean. Your birds are gorgeous

 

If you pair the two yellowfaces you will get df yellowfaces which actually have white faces ....correct ?

 

I was criticized for putting 2 yellow faces together Kaz, as I was told they would throw DFs which would mean only white faces anyway. Well, you will get some yf's and some df's maybe, but all three from that particular nest of mine were yf's

Even if you did get df Yellowfaces that were white if you bred them to a normal blue wouldn't they have yellow faced chics??? Or is my genetics way off there?

Jimmy, you are evil, you made me sound like I was bashing Aussie. I wasn't. Aussie is my top place for going on holiday too.

And I know not all Aussies are mean to kiwis (it was a joke), I mean you guys for starters are awesome.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Evil eyes Jimmy.

its all good Sailorwolf. I'm a joker. I'm married to a kiwi (although she would slap me down for saying that, She's a Samoan, born in Auckland.) Just ignore me :rofl:

okay. Phew. I was really worried that I'd offended people.

I'm really good at putting my foot in my mouth.

 

Note to all BBC people, if I sound like I'm being offensive, I'm really not meaning to

Edited December 10, 200816 yr by Sailorwolf

[if you come to aus then look me up as i am going to be producing some mean **** lookin rainbows ...when i work out where i can get good sise healthy stock know what to do just havent got the needed birds only type 2 golden faces and t2 yfaces grrrrr i will find a good type one one day soon i hope

by time you get here i should have a few pre breed with family history on both sides .when you commin lol