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Hey all,

 

I have booked my 2 show birds in for a vet check i have to wait till Tuesday :budgiedance: as there are no vacant appoinments till then

 

I asked about the mites? as there doesn't seem to be any change in their appearance - so they asked me to bring them down as she mention that it could be blood that I am seeing in the quil ....

 

 

Now what does that mean - She did have the time to talk about it over the phone and now I am searching the net and can't find

what I am looking for the best is what SW said Stress marks?

 

 

Can anyone shed some light on this please ...

 

I will wait for some replies then I am going to go and have a full look over the birds and use white paper so see if it is infact

mites?????

Maybe she thought you were just looking at a blood feather?

I wouldn't know sorry. :budgiedance:

To me it looked like mites in the quill. The stress marks are the horizontal lines across the feather, where it looks weaker.

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OH GOD I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT

 

I JUST FOUND THIS

 

 

Combined beak and feather disease syndrome In this syndrome the disease is characterised by progressive changes in the beak. In the sulphur-crested cockatoo it shows as a dark, almost shiny beak, which becomes overgrown, develops a line across it, breaks off short, may regrow several times, but eventually becomes underrun with the typical rot at the core of the beak.

The first feathers to be affected are the down feathers located over the tops of the legs. which fail to puff out. Patches of infected feathers extend backwards and across over the rump; at the same time stretch lines are evident on some of the primary or flight feathers and/or tail feathers, as well as on some of the comb feathers. Feathers that shed or fall out are progressively replaced by malformed feathers which often remain encased (in part, or totally) in their sheath. They often have bloodstains in the centre of the quill and often a deformed pointed quill. Most sufferers lose their tail and primary flight feathers before they lose their body feathers. Very few birds recover from the disease, the great majority of birds progressing to a bald stage—with some dying because they are unable to eat due to the beak deformity. Seek veterinary advice—but the condition is usually fatal.

 

OH GOD PLEASE DON'T TELL ME I BOUGHT ANOTHER ONE WITH IT!!!!

:budgiedance:

You need to post this on MBC and ask for GaryA's opinion :budgiedance:

Kaz,I hope you are being nice. :P

I AM being nice :) Gary has a wealth of knowledge in the feather department

Psittacine beak and Feather disease. Well if he has it, at least he can keep your other one company.

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I added photo's just then Kaz ....

 

SW - The other one died not long after i got it - it suffered with a secondary infection and well yeah

Neat, I hope you can get the answers very soon, hugs

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I can't wait till Tuesday - it is killing me ... My face is sore because i am refusing to cry ( as dave will say "its only a bird)

But it isn't lasting long ....

 

However a few breeders have suggested that it may be quill mites & possible FM ( which i thought it was at first)

 

He now has staining above his cere I am hoping it is from the carrots ....

 

 

 

THIS IS BOLLOCKS, no wonder why i haven't bought a bird in ages!!!!!!!!!

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Ooo sorry Neat, I didn't realise.

 

I like the mites idea. I have seen them like that at the base of the quill on turkey feathers before. I know cause I scratched them off with my finger nail.

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Sw - I tried scratching and wiping feathers - it is inside the MIDDLE of the quill, and that is okay i only had Cherokee for a short while :hap:

 

okay so, TODAY WAS adventurous .....

 

I cam home and Memphis had broken a blood feather - Yep blood all on his wing :hap:

So switched into Auto pilot, I went straight to the pantry got the white pepper out

and straight outside and grabbed the tweezers ( which was weird as i have been looking for them for 3 days :) )

 

Got a white table cloth thing out - Got him out - located the feather and pulled it out ...

bloodfeather.jpg

Check his other ones ... his tail feather ( the one that had the marks on it ) had fallen out and MAN

 

There are 100's of new feathers coming up

His tail is getting a heap of long pin feathers and so is is head and at the back where he is / was bald

 

His cere is still slightly stained with no discharge from the nostrils But he did make a clicking sound when he was in my hands, just the 2 second click that was it along with heavy breathing - so i rang the vet back up to confirm that it is an avain vet! that my appointment is under as i am now wanting more tests done .... Yes it is :hap: :hap: ;)

 

Soooo I just got of the phone to the person that i got the birds from - to save confusion i will call him MR A ( :D )

 

Mr A thanked me for letting him know of my concerns and we talked for the last hour.

 

The birds that I bought from him were from a now ex Show breeder - MR B

MR A said that it could be the a molt but hoped that it isn't anything else, I told him that i would let him know of the vet result on Tuesday.

 

While i was talking to MR A , I ask him

1. What the birds were feed

2. How was water offered to them

 

He replied with that MR B is a bushy ( lol ) and wasn't real keen on the soft foods

(hence this birds taking so long to accept it) basically they were feed seeds, grit and egg and biscuit mixes.

 

Water was given to birds by the water tube - ( I haven't once seen these birds drink, the water container is always clean and free of poo and husk huh.gif ) and they didn't even bath in to when it was 35 degrees ....

 

So i know have a history of the birds, as little as it is but a history none the less ....

 

I have a little glimmer of hope now :D

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