Posted September 4, 200816 yr I went home to Mum and Dad's for tea tonight and did my usual check of the birds. The first thing I noticed was Crackle had a pooy bum and was looked fluffy and not quite right. I went into the aviary and noticed two of the others the same, but no pooy bum and not as bad... I caught two of them and they have similar symptoms as when they were sick in January. This is a picture of Crackle in January: She's the grey one. Notice the enlarged chest/crop etc?!?!?! Well back then it felt soft and like it had air in in. Her and some others were put on antibiotics as the bacteria was a little 'off'. They all improved but the enlarged area never really went away. They were 100% other than that. This time around, they appear to look worse... more fluffy, the enlargement seems a little larger, and it feels hard! Whether this means it's the same as before and just worse and therefor feels hard, or, it may be something else worse... I have also noticed Bert (female cockatiel) has been sneezing... mmm. So I have an appointment tomorrow at 2pm. I'll be taking Crackle, two or her sisters and Bert. Should be fun trying to catch her!!! It's so upsetting and stressfull... If any one has any ideas as to what may cause this, please let me know...
September 4, 200816 yr I have no answers to what the problems is but i just want to say that i hope things go well at the vets tomorrow and that your budgies and Bert will get better.
September 4, 200816 yr Sorry to hear this Maesie. The birds are not at your new home with you so anything could have happened. They will get sick with stress and food issues, winds and colds.
September 4, 200816 yr Author Thanks Deb and Kaz... I know it could be anything. It has been very cold down here. I hope it's a simple fix and nothing to serious. It looks very weird though... bizarre?!?!
September 4, 200816 yr Author Have they been fed and watered as often ? Yep... they always have plenty of seed and fresh water daily. My Dad is awesome and looks after them. They still get regular veggies/natural branches too... Have you seen anything that looks like this before?
September 4, 200816 yr Not really. Too hard to diagnose and I wouldnt try. You need a vet this time and get them all well as soon as possible. Good thing your Dad is in charge of them as he seems to like it.
September 4, 200816 yr Author Not really. Too hard to diagnose and I wouldnt try. You need a vet this time and get them all well as soon as possible.Good thing your Dad is in charge of them as he seems to like it. Mmm. I phoned the vets as soon as I saw them. Hopefully they are well on the road to recovery before I head off on hoilidays... When I was looking to leave home, Dad told me if I can't take my aviary with me, that he will look after them for me. I do think he does like it too . I am usually around there twice a week, for my big clean out etc... but it's not the same as a twice-a-day check like I used to. I do feel guilty when they get sick and blame myself etc... but I know it's not my fault and these things happen.
September 4, 200816 yr So very sorry to hear this you take such good care of your flock, keep us updated.
September 4, 200816 yr That's no good to hear Maesie. I don't have any idea what could be up with your birdies. I just hope that whatever it is is nothing much and someone just had a little too much to eat. :hap:
September 5, 200816 yr Author The vet visit went well. I couldn't get into to see my usual avian specialist, so I had to see a guy... and... I'm in love he was very nice and HOT... and good with birds!!! During the consultation we spoke in depth about the birds/diseases/symptoms etc... and he got the feeling I knew what I was talking about. He also said it was nice to see birds brought in that weren't really unwell and that it's evident I look after them well and know what to look out for. I mentioned about the BBC and he said it sounds wonderful!!! So, I ended up taking 4 budgies and Bert. Bert was freaking out as she isn't handled very much, but she didn't bite very hard or much, so that was a plus. He gave her a good once over. She didn't sneeze whilst in there (typical). Her eyes and nostrils were clear, no discharge. Her chest and breathing sounded good, and she 'felt' good too. He said he can't see any signs of an 'illness' and didn't want to put her on anything just because she is sneezing. Also, if it was something serious causing it, some of the other birds would probably showing signs too... and they're not. He thought it could be an allergy and decided to give her a low dose of cortisone. He said to see how she goes, but thinks that if it is an allergy and her symptoms don't progress, it's probably not worth doing anything major and her general health is excellent... so a thumbs up for her. The budgies... I took Crackle, John, Paul and George. Each was examined very well. He asked a million and one questions about the aviary, what they are feed, their eating/drinking/pooing habits... he said all felt good. There didn't appear to be any signs of infection etc... of the crop, there is no vomiting/regurgitating of seeds, and they look and seem healthy. Poos were normal and Crackles pooy bum was looking better and may have just been the result of something she ate. His thoughts are they are over weight. He said their keel bone is very well padded and thinks the enlargement is fat!!! :hap: I've been killing them with love. They always have access to budgie seed, fresh branches and regular veggies... but since moving the Cockatiels in with the budgies, there has also been parrot mix, which contains sunflower seeds and such... and I recently bought a bag of hulled oats and a bag on sunflower seeds to fatten up Gucci and Dolce, and the aviary birds have access to both of these... all of the time. When I give it to them, it doesn't last long, but Ive never seen the budgies eating them so I presumed the tiels were the ones... I guess not! :hap: So... I went home and let the birds free (much to their delight!!! ). Then I removed all of the seed and only left budgie mix. He said to try this for some time and see how they go. I'll be watching them closely and if symptoms show themselves, he said to take them back. I'm extremely relieved and will make sure their diet is under control. I'm thinking that because this winter has been very cold, they may have gone a little over board on the comfort food Thanks everyone for your concerns and thoughts... maesie xo
September 5, 200816 yr i am glad to hear that it was nothing seriously wrong with your budgies but are your poor budgies going to have to endure lots of vet trips for regular checkups so you can ogle at the hot guy.
September 5, 200816 yr The vet visit went well. I couldn't get into to see my usual avian specialist, so I had to see a guy... and... I'm in love he was very nice and HOT... and good with birds!!! During the consultation we spoke in depth about the birds/diseases/symptoms etc... and he got the feeling I knew what I was talking about. He also said it was nice to see birds brought in that weren't really unwell and that it's evident I look after them well and know what to look out for. I mentioned about the BBC and he said it sounds wonderful!!! So, I ended up taking 4 budgies and Bert. Bert was freaking out as she isn't handled very much, but she didn't bite very hard or much, so that was a plus. He gave her a good once over. She didn't sneeze whilst in there (typical). Her eyes and nostrils were clear, no discharge. Her chest and breathing sounded good, and she 'felt' good too. He said he can't see any signs of an 'illness' and didn't want to put her on anything just because she is sneezing. Also, if it was something serious causing it, some of the other birds would probably showing signs too... and they're not. He thought it could be an allergy and decided to give her a low dose of cortisone. He said to see how she goes, but thinks that if it is an allergy and her symptoms don't progress, it's probably not worth doing anything major and her general health is excellent... so a thumbs up for her. The budgies... I took Crackle, John, Paul and George. Each was examined very well. He asked a million and one questions about the aviary, what they are feed, their eating/drinking/pooing habits... he said all felt good. There didn't appear to be any signs of infection etc... of the crop, there is no vomiting/regurgitating of seeds, and they look and seem healthy. Poos were normal and Crackles pooy bum was looking better and may have just been the result of something she ate. His thoughts are they are over weight. He said their keel bone is very well padded and thinks the enlargement is fat!!! :hap: I've been killing them with love. They always have access to budgie seed, fresh branches and regular veggies... but since moving the Cockatiels in with the budgies, there has also been parrot mix, which contains sunflower seeds and such... and I recently bought a bag of hulled oats and a bag on sunflower seeds to fatten up Gucci and Dolce, and the aviary birds have access to both of these... all of the time. When I give it to them, it doesn't last long, but Ive never seen the budgies eating them so I presumed the tiels were the ones... I guess not! :hap: So... I went home and let the birds free (much to their delight!!! ). Then I removed all of the seed and only left budgie mix. He said to try this for some time and see how they go. I'll be watching them closely and if symptoms show themselves, he said to take them back. I'm extremely relieved and will make sure their diet is under control. I'm thinking that because this winter has been very cold, they may have gone a little over board on the comfort food Thanks everyone for your concerns and thoughts... maesie xo Hi Maesie Glad to see that you went to the Vet, probably is a diet probably but also may be a problem due to wet weather. I don't know whether you have concrete on your floors of the aviary but due to all the wet weather you are having down there it is a possibilty that your birds have Coccidiosis. Talk to your Vet about Coccidiosis as you could lose a lot of birds with this. Keep them all on budgie seed, they can can have 10% hulled oats and 10% sunflower in winter and cut it down to about 2% in summer. Hope that all goes well. Regards BB1
September 5, 200816 yr OOOoooooooohhh Maesie and the hot vet guy sitting in a tree! K I S S I...... tee hee Is he single? lol Edited September 5, 200816 yr by Sailorwolf
September 5, 200816 yr Author Hi MaesieGlad to see that you went to the Vet, probably is a diet probably but also may be a problem due to wet weather. I don't know whether you have concrete on your floors of the aviary but due to all the wet weather you are having down there it is a possibilty that your birds have Coccidiosis. Talk to your Vet about Coccidiosis as you could lose a lot of birds with this. Keep them all on budgie seed, they can can have 10% hulled oats and 10% sunflower in winter and cut it down to about 2% in summer. Hope that all goes well. Regards BB1 Thanks BB1. We spoke about Coccidiosis and along with no symptoms of this, their poos were clear of all nasties. My aviary floor is concrete and doesn't get rain in it. It has been very cold down here but not overly wet. Thanks again for your suggestions Deb and SW... I didn't see a wedding ring so that's a start. I'm thinking I'll have to start training Gucci and Dolce to play doctors and patients... I'll be the doctor and they can be the patients. Once they have it down pat I'll ring up and request an appointment with 'him'. I might start with them 'playing sore wing or foot'... :hap:
September 5, 200816 yr OMG!!!! okay Wow I am glad that all is well with your OVER LOVED PETS :D But the fact that your in love Has me wanting to come over there and pick on you HAHAHAH YAY Eye candy for Maes .... So i am sure that you will take another bird in there soon eh eh did you get his numbers ...
September 5, 200816 yr Good to hear your vet was hot JUST Joking...don't you just love and hate that at the same time Anyways, I hope the birds continue in a forward motion and everything is okay and nothing more serious happens.
September 5, 200816 yr Author OMG!!!! okay Wow I am glad that all is well with your OVER LOVED PETS But the fact that your in love Has me wanting to come over there and pick on you HAHAHAH YAY Eye candy for Maes .... So i am sure that you will take another bird in there soon eh eh did you get his numbers ... NO... but I have his work number :hap: :hap:
September 5, 200816 yr Glad things don’t seem so bad with your birds Maesie…looks like some big vet bills coming up…you will be checking out the pet shops for sick birds that you can take in for a diagnosis…LOL…good luck in both cases.
September 6, 200816 yr Author Thanks everyone... Yeah Norm, I'm thinking I'll even offer my services here... anyone with sick birds I'm happy to pick up and take to the vets
September 7, 200816 yr So glad to hear your birds are just suffering from too much lovin We await more news on "Maesie and the Hot Vet"
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