September 4, 200816 yr I'm sure you can put a new one in with your others. Some people have heaps of goldfish in their tanks. I have 2 in a 12 litre (3 gallon) tank. And they are happy (Admittedly I want a bigger tank, the person who looked after them over the summer made them grow twice as big as they used to be)
September 4, 200816 yr Author I have a 39L tank with some rainbow things, an Oranda and a large bubble eye But I want to put more plants in there and I am worried about overcrowding.
September 4, 200816 yr I think you could probably add more. But wait a bit. Rainbow things??? :hap: Post another picture of your set up I want to see!
September 4, 200816 yr I cleaned my pond out today :hap: I have two fantails 3 shrabumpkins (or something?) and about 5 comets I have a favourite in there called smooch he's an orange fan tail with white lips   For those that own siamese fighters easy way to feed them, which they love !!!! Mozzie larvae the squirmy wormy ones, they chase them around and have soo much fun!
September 4, 200816 yr Author Everyone in the tropical tank looks really good today, the male Simese looks 100 times better then he did yesterday when I brought him home. they have them in display bowls and told me that at night they get moved back into holding cages in a big tank but still, I thought he was dead or close to it. Seems to LOVE the room and is zipping around the tank. The two females seem to have picked up and spent most of last night watching the male :hap:  SW the rainbow things are about the size or large tetras (sp?) And live around the top of the tank.  This is a picture of my set up   Will try and get a better picture of the little guys.
September 5, 200816 yr It seems a little smoggy in there AV, do you have an amonia problem? you can get Ph equalising kits to get rid of that...
September 5, 200816 yr The temp depends ont the species, with a community tank especially one with goldfish in it you need to go a bit lower :hap:
September 5, 200816 yr Goldfish will still live in warmth, my Pond gets hot in summer and they're fine and super cold in winter. I think it's an amonia problem by the smog.
September 5, 200816 yr Oh yes goldfish will live in tropical but they are much more prone to disease in warm water
September 5, 200816 yr Author Fresh water tank with gold fish has no heater and is cold water. yes it looks smoggy in the picture but it's not in real life. Â tropical tank is at 26 degrees and has the beta's in it.
September 5, 200816 yr Author Hmmm might go back and get the other one, the only issue is that he seems to love the top of the tank and floats sort of upside down with his head down and his but in the air so I am thinking he might not be 100%
September 5, 200816 yr What are you planning on putting with the bettas? In order to reduce the risk of disease I would still lower the temp in that tank by a few degrees, infact I would go as low as 22. While not ideal below about 20 bettas will actually live in cold water in a warm room (I have one in my bedroom with no heater and think about where they are normally located in pet shops) so a lower temp will still suit them and it will reduce the risk of fungal and bacterial infections  Fancy goldfish with the wide tums are much more prone to problems with their gas bladders, as long as his scales aren't sticking out like a pine cone he is probably okay, many fancy goldfish live their entire lives upside down even! Edited September 5, 200816 yr by melbournebudgies
September 5, 200816 yr Author okay thanks MB I have little red nosed tetura (sp?) in there with the betas and one other thing that I think is suppose to be a tetura but looks differnt and does not swim with them. Â will lower the temp by a few degrees. Â As for the oranda I will see about getting him another friend.
September 5, 200816 yr Sounds like a gas bladder problem. If you do get him, just soak his food before giving it to him and try not to feed him floating foods. Try not to feed him too much either. A goldfish's stomach is as big as their eye. Â Spelling is "tetra" Â I would advise waiting for your tank to properly cycle before getting anymore fish. This takes about 2 weeks. Edited September 5, 200816 yr by Sailorwolf
September 5, 200816 yr If you have tetras in there too then about 24 would be a good middle ground for everyone  I agree with SW about waiting before getting any more. Over the course of about the first two-three weeks after you set up a new tank there is a build up of good bacteria and ammonia. In a mature tank the two are balanced but when a tank is new the ammonia levels can easily overtake what the bacteria can deal with. By only having a couple of fish for the first few weeks the growth of good bacteria is stimulated but without upsetting the balance. Keep an eye on the pH levels, if the tank starts to become acidic at all it is an indicator of overstocking.
September 8, 200816 yr And you can just keep on top of the water by doing frequent water changes at this time.
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