Respiratory Infections

This infections may attack 2 separate parts Upper NOSE, SINUS and WINDPIPE

& Lower AIR SACS & LUNGS

It commonly starts at the upper and left untreated will spread to the lower

 

Upper Respiratory Infections

Signs, Runny nose like, Staining of the feathers above the cere, Blocked nostrils or swelling around the eye area or mouth, may also show signs of mouth breathing and sneezing. Most cases it is caused my Chlamydia, Mycoplasma or Vit A deficiency or a range of bacteria.

 

Bird owners mistake swelling around the eye as a sign of an eye disease, But it is infact a problem with the birds sinuses and will not improve with eye cream and / or ointments.

Treatment: INJECTABLE Doxycycline or Enroflaxcin

In water treatments are only good if infection is caught at a EARLY stage….

Allergies can casue symptoms like have fever, but not very common. Cause of this are Cigarette smoke, dust, Ammonia from poo and household cleaning products …..

 

Lower:

These are Quite ill, They spend a lot of time fluffed up and huntched over, they will have issues breathing ( tail bobbing) mouth brething loss of voice and appetite they are weak and fly very poorly….

 

Infection in this area of the body is Usually associated with my Chlamydia, Mycoplasma ( Mycoplasma is the cause of “ one eye cold” ) or Vit A deficiency or a range of bacteria. This response well with Tylan.

 

In places with High humidity ASPERGILLOSIS ( a fungi that grown in the air sac) may be a part of the prolem…

Edited August 6, 200816 yr by KAZ

Respiratory Infections can also be caused be Vitamin A deficiency, anything in your home that is toxic that can irritate the lining of your birds lungs. Respiratory Infections are one of the most common reasons why birds die.

Great info Neat, just for anyone doing further research the fungi is Aspergillus and Aspergillosis is the condition it causes, which may present as many different symptoms depending on the way the fungal infection takes hold

There are many different types of respiratory infections and problems. The treatment depends on what the problem is.

Mites can also live in the air sacs too.

Respiratory infections can be caused by viruses, bacteria, fungi and parasites. Viruses often infect the animal first and damage the lining of the airways allowing bacteria to take up a secondary infection and cause pneumonia and other problems.

Respiratory infections can spread to the pneumatic bones as these are connected with the air sacs.

Unfortunately I have not done much in the area of respiratory infections in birds yet.

Respiratory Infections

This infections may attack 2 separate parts Upper NOSE, SINUS and WINDPIPE

& Lower AIR SACS & LUNGS

It commonly starts at the upper and left untreated will spread to the lower

 

Upper Respiratory Infections

Signs, Runny nose like, Staining of the feathers above the cere, Blocked nostrils or swelling around the eye area or mouth, may also show signs of mouth breathing and sneezing. Most cases it is caused my Chlamydia, Mycoplasma or Vit A deficiency or a range of bacteria.

 

Bird owners mistake swelling around the eye as a sign of an eye disease, But it is infact a problem with the birds sinuses and will not improve with eye cream and / or ointments.

Treatment: INJECTABLE Doxycycline or Enroflaxcin

In water treatments are only good if infection is caught at a EARLY stage….

Allergies can casue symptoms like have fever, but not very common. Cause of this are Cigarette smoke, dust, Ammonia from poo and household cleaning products …..

 

Lower:

These are Quite ill, They spend a lot of time fluffed up and huntched over, they will have issues breathing ( tail bobbing) mouth brething loss of voice and appetite they are weak and fly very poorly….

 

Infection in this area of the body is Usually associated with my Chlamydia, Mycoplasma ( Mycoplasma is the cause of “ one eye cold” ) or Vit A deficiency or a range of bacteria. This response well with Tylan.

 

In places with High humidity ASPERGILLOSIS ( a fungi that grown in the air sac) may be a part of the prolem…

 

im trying to find out how to find out if your birds have this

mycoplasma and exactly what is it is it climidia ,parasisiossis or is it totally different

is is caused by high humidity or by bad seed ??

if a young chick in nest 5 weeks got this

what would most likely be cause ??

 

any help would be appreciated as it seems maybe i have after a long time found out what killed my birds last year

and im scarred i may have it back

nothings died or dead or even looks sick

but i sold a chick recently whom has ended up not well

when i spoke to the person i sold him too

i knew he was not right by what was described ,..so she took him to vet (avian)

its not decided what he has but white blood cells were high and was bacteria found but what im unsure i haven't spoken properly to new owner

vet said he should come through fine but mycoplasma was mentioned as possible problem

if this is so

then its possible my flock holds the illness and i want to know hows the best way to treat or if its not that simple

cheers

ps i did offer to pay vet costs but offer was declined i truly do hope he pulls through he was such a lovely boy his clutch buddy's seem perfect as does his Peronts

so i really am stumped but know he has to of been unwell from start as hes so little (as in young) hes only been gone a short time im just glad i like to stay in contact for a month or two see how things are going as if we didn't discuss things and how their going things could of been different

 

as i said none of my birds or young showing sighns of any illness no breathing issues nothing

but my violet did have sighns of mycoplasma parilis and the crackling breathing but i thought that was due to me feeding her

im not so sure now

Mycoplasma - a form of bacteria that commonly causes respiratory issues in a range of different animals.

Chlamydia - psitacossis

Mycoplasma - a form of bacteria that commonly causes respiratory issues in a range of different animals.

Chlamydia - psitacossis

 

 

oh well best i see what this young chick has for real

as if this is so

then my birds could be carrying this is this right

so wow all my quarantine bird will need to be on other side of yard in fact i may use the front of house so their miles away

as im on big block

lets hope it was just lightly tossed around not actually the diagnosis

is it just a treatment of doxy then

as i did try to doxy birds resently but all got the sighns that come with flock not needing treatment

the large poos and very down in out birds

so i stopped gave pro bos and the birds been chattery as poo normal again mmm could just the one bird from that pairring be the carryer

i think a selection of random birds are going to vet

for a test wouldnt birds be dropping dead if my flock had this ???

am i just worrying myself for nothing do you think

or could they have it with no signs the whole flock chicks the lot ???

myco often comes along as a secondary to other things - stress, chills etc. it's present as a natural occupant of the bird just gets out of control sometimes - if you catch it early and with mild symptoms Moxi T treats it well.

 

psitacosis generally comes in with a carrier - doxy program early would seem to suggest that it's not a real issue in your flock.

 

 

5 week chick in the nest might well be a high humidity thing as the nests can get quite wet with older chicks. Could be psitacosis from a healthy looking carrier parent or neighbor bird. Could be myco if the chick is stressed or underfed.

 

If other chicks in that nest show these signs it's probably something to concern yourself with but one chick I would treat for symptoms - Moxi T in water and monitor. And/or change the nest environment if you thing that is having an effect.

 

Too many possibilities at this stage though GB.

myco often comes along as a secondary to other things - stress, chills etc. it's present as a natural occupant of the bird just gets out of control sometimes - if you catch it early and with mild symptoms Moxi T treats it well.

 

psitacosis generally comes in with a carrier - doxy program early would seem to suggest that it's not a real issue in your flock.

 

 

5 week chick in the nest might well be a high humidity thing as the nests can get quite wet with older chicks. Could be psitacosis from a healthy looking carrier parent or neighbor bird. Could be myco if the chick is stressed or underfed.

 

If other chicks in that nest show these signs it's probably something to concern yourself with but one chick I would treat for symptoms - Moxi T in water and monitor. And/or change the nest environment if you thing that is having an effect.

 

Too many possibilities at this stage though GB.

 

thank you the chick was kicked out at five weeks and also nest box had no ventilation

the father could possably be a carrier as out of seven birds i brought last year hes only one let standing

all un known illnesses all from same breeder and with in two months of buying :{

 

but also other chicks were fine bar one fm aflicted and even hes got feathers growng back its only been two weeks their regrown almost fully

so

their was no next door birds near this pair as last clutch out last round

dad in mum got first chick second round hatched yesterday

should i just doxy everyone for two weeks or no i rather not medicate unless sick what your houghts nubbly 5 please

mabe just amoxilin t

Edited October 8, 201014 yr by GenericBlue

Well I'd hate to give you a bum steer GB BUT in your position with only one chick showing symptoms I'd treat the chick individually with Moxi-T (or via water to cabinet if it's still in the the parents) and monitor closely. If it's something more sinister you will only know if other chicks/birds start dying. I know I had a psitacosis outbreak last year from a carrier hen and slowly a few different birds including her mate were affected until I culled her, aggressively treated with doxy all the affected chicks and birds. All with respiratory symptoms all from the same nest and then nests around.

 

Myco rarely comes as an outbreak and usually only affects already stressed birds so for now that's the path I'd choose personally but I've been known to be wrong so decide as you feel you must!

Edited October 8, 201014 yr by nubbly5

Well I'd hate to give you a bum steer GB BUT in your position with only one chick showing symptoms I'd treat the chick individually with Moxi-T (or via water to cabinet if it's still in the the parents) and monitor closely. If it's something more sinister you will only know if other chicks/birds start dying. I know I had a psitacosis outbreak last year from a carrier hen and slowly a few different birds including her mate were affected until I culled her, aggressively treated with doxy all the affected chicks and birds. All with respiratory symptoms all from the same nest and then nests around.

 

Myco rarely comes as an outbreak and usually only affects already stressed birds so for now that's the path I'd choose personally but I've been known to be wrong so decide as you feel you must!

 

GB do you go through the book on bird sickness & then pin it on, of of your bird,do you just like

to have a sick bird on the go.Mind you are not the only one,I read these posts & think,WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE

DO TO THERE BIRDS.As the saying goes,there is livestock & dead stock.Its a way of life.

Well I'd hate to give you a bum steer GB BUT in your position with only one chick showing symptoms I'd treat the chick individually with Moxi-T (or via water to cabinet if it's still in the the parents) and monitor closely. If it's something more sinister you will only know if other chicks/birds start dying. I know I had a psitacosis outbreak last year from a carrier hen and slowly a few different birds including her mate were affected until I culled her, aggressively treated with doxy all the affected chicks and birds. All with respiratory symptoms all from the same nest and then nests around.

 

Myco rarely comes as an outbreak and usually only affects already stressed birds so for now that's the path I'd choose personally but I've been known to be wrong so decide as you feel you must!

the chick is no longer in my care

hes seven weeks old now but the person whom got him was worryed about him as hids breathing was not right when i could here it on phone i told her vet straight away as is respiratory she was going to vet but going to wait for a certain vet

i said so long as avian go sooner not latter

the chick is being treated so thats good

the other chicks were out earlier than this last one

about a week

n mum kicked him out to sit on new eggs shed layed

i may treat the pair as their still together with new chicks hatching first on was yesterday

as my birds all seem best they have for long time

this morning they were all chattering sitting blows all up chip chip chipping away happy as larrys

 

but first sign of trouble ill fore sure know what to suspect

vet didnt actually diagnose what repertory infection just treated with vit a shot and quote "Enrofloxacin .3mls twice a day for 6 days.

I have to then take him back next tues, and he will start a new antibiotic. "

'i just asuming chick got sick here first as shes only had a very short time seems he was sick with in first day or two being their he wasn't covered at night though i did think he could of got chilled but over night ????

what is "Enrofloxacin nubbly

Edited October 8, 201014 yr by GenericBlue

Well I'd hate to give you a bum steer GB BUT in your position with only one chick showing symptoms I'd treat the chick individually with Moxi-T (or via water to cabinet if it's still in the the parents) and monitor closely. If it's something more sinister you will only know if other chicks/birds start dying. I know I had a psitacosis outbreak last year from a carrier hen and slowly a few different birds including her mate were affected until I culled her, aggressively treated with doxy all the affected chicks and birds. All with respiratory symptoms all from the same nest and then nests around.

 

Myco rarely comes as an outbreak and usually only affects already stressed birds so for now that's the path I'd choose personally but I've been known to be wrong so decide as you feel you must!

the chick is no longer in my care

hes seven weeks old now but the person whom got him was worryed about him as hids breathing was not right when i could here it on phone i told her vet straight away as is respiratory she was going to vet but going to wait for a certain vet

i said so long as avian go sooner not latter

the chick is being treated so thats good

the other chicks were out earlier than this last one

about a week

n mum kicked him out to sit on new eggs shed layed

i may treat the pair as their still together with new chicks hatching first on was yesterday

as my birds all seem best they have for long time

this morning they were all chattering sitting blows all up chip chip chipping away happy as larrys

 

but first sign of trouble ill fore sure know what to suspect

vet didnt actually diagnose what repertory infection just treated with vit a shot and quote "Enrofloxacin .3mls twice a day for 6 days.

I have to then take him back next tues, and he will start a new antibiotic. "

'i just asuming chick got sick here first as shes only had a very short time seems he was sick with in first day or two being their he wasn't covered at night though i did think he could of got chilled but over night ????

what is "Enrofloxacin nubbly

 

 

another question

can probiotics be used with "Enrofloxacin

and or lemmon juice or apple cider vin

where do you get moxi t is it from vet or can you get on line also

im trying to help owner find out things

also a test that needs to be sent over seas to be done ... what could this be for takes two weeks to get back ???? sounds weird

Well I'd hate to give you a bum steer GB BUT in your position with only one chick showing symptoms I'd treat the chick individually with Moxi-T (or via water to cabinet if it's still in the the parents) and monitor closely. If it's something more sinister you will only know if other chicks/birds start dying. I know I had a psitacosis outbreak last year from a carrier hen and slowly a few different birds including her mate were affected until I culled her, aggressively treated with doxy all the affected chicks and birds. All with respiratory symptoms all from the same nest and then nests around.

 

Myco rarely comes as an outbreak and usually only affects already stressed birds so for now that's the path I'd choose personally but I've been known to be wrong so decide as you feel you must!

the chick is no longer in my care

hes seven weeks old now but the person whom got him was worryed about him as hids breathing was not right when i could here it on phone i told her vet straight away as is respiratory she was going to vet but going to wait for a certain vet

i said so long as avian go sooner not latter

the chick is being treated so thats good

the other chicks were out earlier than this last one

about a week

n mum kicked him out to sit on new eggs shed layed

i may treat the pair as their still together with new chicks hatching first on was yesterday

as my birds all seem best they have for long time

this morning they were all chattering sitting blows all up chip chip chipping away happy as larrys

 

but first sign of trouble ill fore sure know what to suspect

vet didnt actually diagnose what repertory infection just treated with vit a shot and quote "Enrofloxacin .3mls twice a day for 6 days.

I have to then take him back next tues, and he will start a new antibiotic. "

'i just asuming chick got sick here first as shes only had a very short time seems he was sick with in first day or two being their he wasn't covered at night though i did think he could of got chilled but over night ????

what is "Enrofloxacin nubbly

 

 

another question

can probiotics be used with "Enrofloxacin

and or lemmon juice or apple cider vin

where do you get moxi t is it from vet or can you get on line also

im trying to help owner find out things

also a test that needs to be sent over seas to be done ... what could this be for takes two weeks to get back ???? sounds weird

 

 

Maybe polyoma virus test...... sort of remember another breeder testing for circovirus and polyoma virus and think the bloods needed to be sent overseas....... but don't quote me.

 

Enrofloxacin is sold as Baytril. A broad spectrum antibiotic produced by Bayer.

 

Dunno about probiotics and enrofloxacin - I don't use probiotics at all for any animal as there is no useful scientific information that has ever proven that probiotics do anything other than make us all feel good by using them. Unless both products are made by the same company I doubt that anyone else would know if probiotics and enrofloxacin can be mixed with one or the other being affected. Probably not the best idea to mix probiotics and antibiotics.

Well I'd hate to give you a bum steer GB BUT in your position with only one chick showing symptoms I'd treat the chick individually with Moxi-T (or via water to cabinet if it's still in the the parents) and monitor closely. If it's something more sinister you will only know if other chicks/birds start dying. I know I had a psitacosis outbreak last year from a carrier hen and slowly a few different birds including her mate were affected until I culled her, aggressively treated with doxy all the affected chicks and birds. All with respiratory symptoms all from the same nest and then nests around.

 

Myco rarely comes as an outbreak and usually only affects already stressed birds so for now that's the path I'd choose personally but I've been known to be wrong so decide as you feel you must!

the chick is no longer in my care

hes seven weeks old now but the person whom got him was worryed about him as hids breathing was not right when i could here it on phone i told her vet straight away as is respiratory she was going to vet but going to wait for a certain vet

i said so long as avian go sooner not latter

the chick is being treated so thats good

the other chicks were out earlier than this last one

about a week

n mum kicked him out to sit on new eggs shed layed

i may treat the pair as their still together with new chicks hatching first on was yesterday

as my birds all seem best they have for long time

this morning they were all chattering sitting blows all up chip chip chipping away happy as larrys

 

but first sign of trouble ill fore sure know what to suspect

vet didnt actually diagnose what repertory infection just treated with vit a shot and quote "Enrofloxacin .3mls twice a day for 6 days.

I have to then take him back next tues, and he will start a new antibiotic. "

'i just asuming chick got sick here first as shes only had a very short time seems he was sick with in first day or two being their he wasn't covered at night though i did think he could of got chilled but over night ????

what is "Enrofloxacin nubbly

 

 

another question

can probiotics be used with "Enrofloxacin

and or lemmon juice or apple cider vin

where do you get moxi t is it from vet or can you get on line also

im trying to help owner find out things

also a test that needs to be sent over seas to be done ... what could this be for takes two weeks to get back ???? sounds weird

 

 

Maybe polyoma virus test...... sort of remember another breeder testing for circovirus and polyoma virus and think the bloods needed to be sent overseas....... but don't quote me.

 

Enrofloxacin is sold as Baytril. A broad spectrum antibiotic produced by Bayer.

 

Dunno about probiotics and enrofloxacin - I don't use probiotics at all for any animal as there is no useful scientific information that has ever proven that probiotics do anything other than make us all feel good by using them. Unless both products are made by the same company I doubt that anyone else would know if probiotics and enrofloxacin can be mixed with one or the other being affected. Probably not the best idea to mix probiotics and antibiotics.

 

well i know that you can mix it with some but cant remember what

so you saying i brought pro bos for nothing

i thought they kept the gut flora in tact

so everyong kept on about how i so needed to buy so i did

but at 23 bucks a 100 ml jar im inclined to not bother it you say that its just another gimmick i only got to keep megga at bay along with one treatment probo every week in water and one of apple cider vin another week then one with lemmon and another pro bo

thats what i was told

but you know by who dont you ...

yep vet