I was hoping I would get a DF spangle out of my last clutch but no such luck. Just pulled my two new chicks out of the box and I'm pretty sure one has plum eyes, does that mean DF spangle? I hope so, if it does that one will be staying with me

Plum I believe means recessive pied or cinnamon, but I see Kaz is on here too so she will confirm.

Plum I believe means recessive pied or cinnamon, but I see Kaz is on here too so she will confirm.

Agree with Elly

Damn, now I'll have to wait and see. The chick in question is only about four days old but those eyes seem to be a few shades lighter than the other chicks and you can see the pupil very bright under the skin, does that sound like plum?

plum = cinnamon or recessive pied

bright red or red = ino (which I knew you knew)

 

I don't think there is anyway you can determine a double factor spangle when they are first born.

One of my chicks from the spangle i paired had plum eyes and Daz mentioned that df spangles can start with cinnamon eyes that develop to black as they get older . My chicks has ended up having white wings and head with a light blue colour in its chest.i hope you get a df spangle, i was hoping to breed one and didnt.

If it was a DF Spangle that was also carrying Cinnamon it could have Plum eyes. What are the parents MB both Spangles?

Ahhhhh, true Norm, that didn't even cross my mind

If it was a DF Spangle that was also carrying Cinnamon it could have Plum eyes. What are the parents MB both Spangles?

 

Excellent point Norm, and Deb was your DF also a cinnamon?

One of my chicks from the spangle i paired had plum eyes and Daz mentioned that df spangles can start with cinnamon eyes that develop to black as they get older . My chicks has ended up having white wings and head with a light blue colour in its chest.i hope you get a df spangle, i was hoping to breed one and didnt.

 

Deb a picture of that bird would be interesting, if it started out with Plum eyes & then turned out the colour you say, I think it would be worth us having a look at it.

Sounds a bit like one of Daz’s DF Melanistic Spangles.

Edited July 21, 200816 yr by Norm

One of my chicks from the spangle i paired had plum eyes and Daz mentioned that df spangles can start with cinnamon eyes that develop to black as they get older . My chicks has ended up having white wings and head with a light blue colour in its chest.i hope you get a df spangle, i was hoping to breed one and didnt.

 

Deb a picture of that bird would be interesting, if it started out with Plum eyes & then turned out the colour you say, I think it would be worth us having a look at it.

Sounds a bit like one of Daz's DF Melanistic Spangles.

 

 

 

 

i will try to get a photo of it, it is at Jenene,s at the moment with a foster hen because it came from the pair i was having problems with so i will ask her for the lastest photo of it.

Parents are both spangles, no visible indication that either has cinnimon or anything else so if it turns out to be a cinnimon chick then my boy must be split for it.

I have taken some quick photos of your birds Deb, hope these are okay!

Deb's other baby!

the first one is not a DF is the 2nd one?

The first one looks like a hen Spangle, the second looks like a male, I guess that is the one you were explaining Deb, but it’s hard to see enough of it in that picture to make any comment on it. Thanks for the pictures Jenene.

The first one looks like a hen Spangle, the second looks like a male, I guess that is the one you were explaining Deb, but it's hard to see enough of it in that picture to make any comment on it. Thanks for the pictures Jenene.

 

 

I started my own topic with pics of the one i am talking about it. Sorry MB for jumping into your topic with pics of my birds.

It's cool, I am interested from the perspective of workikng out what mine are anyway

It's cool, I am interested from the perspective of workikng out what mine are anyway

 

 

I agree with MB… we should try to keep to a persons topic as far as possible, but life isn’t that clear cut & one thing develops into another & some of the most interesting topics develop from one particular topic which soon brings up even more interesting things, so it’s good to follow up.

 

. As maybe the case if Melbourne Budgies bird if in fact it turns out a DF Spangle as she thought. I heard from a top show breeder that they breed Cinnamon into their DF Spangles to improve the feather. I don’t think there’s a class for Cinnamon Spangle only Normals so you would have to keep two different lines.

MB- if both are spangle there is a chance that is is a DF spangle. as daz has stated sometimes they can have a plum looking eye. best to wait until the pin feathers start to open before getting too attached

Norm I have read that too in a few Show breeders articles

this is getting very interesting to read

there is a 50% chance of DF Spangle % 50% Single

Sorry everyone I was having a "blonde moment" - I took photos of the wrong bird!

Hope these pics are what you were after!!

wow... I know nothing at all about genetics, colours etc etc, but that is a really attractive looking budgie... I could eat it up!

It's like bubblegum icecream

It's like bubblegum icecream

 

There you go... if you get stuck for a name... Bubblegum, gummy, bubba... !