Hi all

 

I went to a pet shop last week and I remember one of them say that apple cidar vinegar is good for budgies. He said mix it in their water oince a week and it basically keeps them healthy. The problem is, I forgot how much needs to be added into a 300 mil water dish. Does anyone know how much I should add to a 300 mil water dish? Is it good to use fr breeding birds in cagesd aswell?

On a different note, i heard that silverbeet is bad for budgies in breeder cages, is this true? I have alot of it and I would prefer that it doesnt go to waste.

 

Thanks for your time

I am not sure about the ACV. Silverbeet however, contains too much iron which is bad for breeding budgies as it stops the absorption of calcium.

I wouldnt worry about using vinegar. Some people use pure raspberry cordial for budgies with tummy upsets and it has good benefits.

If I was a budgie I wouldnt want to drink vinegar water.

If you want to use ACV,10mils to the ltre,If you use raspberry cordial.use the diet one.it is the best

one to use.2-3 days a week,

Hmmm.....thats interesting macka. I was at a friends place the other day - budgie friend of course. She has been breeding for about 12 years and she happened to have picked up a bottle of diet raspberry cordial and was giving that to her birds. The other day, we caught up with an acquaintance who is a breeder and someone who works in the bird industry and show breeds budgies and lovebirds, when my friend mentioned she was using the diet version of the raspberry cordial, he pointed out to her it was the sugar boost that was good for her aviary birds and that she shouldnt be using the diet version but the full version. I also hear that ACV is very good too. It has very good health properties for humans also

Edited July 7, 200816 yr by Sunnie

I use a liquid called Acidomid, it has organic acids, etc. - also vinegar. So I gues it's okay for them . I put 10 ml into 1 l of drinking water.

YUK! ACV Stinks there is no way i would drink it myself let alone give it to my birds no matter how good it was .....

 

Mum used to wash my brothers hats in that stuff and still stunk ...

But each to their own :budgiedance:

I use ACV a couple of times a week, as I’ve seen it recommended in lots of places, it’s hard to judge if it really is as good as they say, as Macka says I use 10mls to the Litre. I use it myself sometimes it tastes yucky as it’s extremely acid, but then not everything that tastes good is good for you. At least as far as the birds are concerned I think the fact that their water is acid would inhibit bacteria at least.

The thing with Raspberry cordial is that it is supposed to be the highest content of true Raspberries that’s important, it’s very hard to find, I didn’t find anything more than 25% Raspberries, as most of it in stores is artificial flavoured which is useless, I would use the normal one myself.

I've tasted the water with the acid staff I give them and it tastes okay, I find the garlic in the water more yucky (it's from the same company), that one I've only smelled, there is no way I'd taste that one :hap:

Edited July 8, 200816 yr by Zebra

Thanks very much everyone for your help.

Another question reguarding vegetables. Would I be able to feed my budgies the birds eye frozen vegetables with the peas, corn and carrot? If so would the budgies be better off eating them raw? or Steamed/cooked?

Thanks

I use frozen corn, all I do is pour hot water over it to thaw it out, I think raw is probably the best.

I also feed frozen corn and pies. I normally leave it on the table till it defrosts. And they love it

I feed mine frozen peas corn and carrots too, but i steam it for 2 minutes first - The packet often says not to eat uncooked as it could have bacteria on it

When we were little my brother and I used to eat frozen peas straight out of the packet, we survived

Frozen peas are yum! I give mine a frozen stirfry mix (has broccoli, green beans, butter beans, carrot and courgette) and make sure to take out all the onion first. Then I soak it in warm or cold (doesn't really matter) water for a bit to get the edge off the chill and give it to them like that. It thaws out pretty quickly.

I also feed frozen corn and pies. I normally leave it on the table till it defrosts. And they love it

 

Sounds more like an Aussie Budgie!!! A pie eating Budgie... I love it!

I do the same like Norm with my Corn on the cob ..

I feed my birds the frozen vegies too I do the same thing put boiled water on them and till they thaw out ..

 

1. Because all the frozen Veggies are cooked first then packed

2. Boiled water will kill of any bateria which may be on them ....

 

I also feed frozen corn and pies. I normally leave it on the table till it defrosts. And they love it

 

Sounds more like an Aussie Budgie!!! A pie eating Budgie... I love it!

 

 

I meant peas of course But maybe I should try if they'd eat my apple pie that I make I think I've been spelling peas "pies" all the time (so next time you see a pie in my post it's probably pea )

LOL

I give my guys frozen corn too, they dont seem to bother much with the peas, I replace them with fresh snowpeas. I zap the corn in the microwave so its not frozen. Corn on the cob, when I give it to them, I give it raw. I give them fresh carrot, only cause I hate frozen carrot, so I dont think it would taste so good to them either lol

Hmm, thaw out your veges in a diluted solution of apple cider vinegar. The apple cider vinegar (acetic acid) will take care of most of the bacteria. They are better off eating raw fruit and veges because cooking destroys much of the phytonutrient content and other heat sensitive nutrients in food. My budgies love diluted apple cider vinegar water, mostly they bathe in it, but drink it as well. 10ml/L. They also like raspberry cordial 10ml/L, but they only get that occasionally or if they are sick as an energy boost, also, the phosphoric acid in the cordial helps clear out intestinal nasties, similar to the acetic acid in apple cider vinegar. Bear in mind, acids usually reduce bacterial growth (except for acid loving bacteria) and sugar usually increases bacterial growth. (Don't like diet drinks if they contain artificial sweetners - neurotoxic).

Artificial sweetners are bad for humans too. Does anyone wonder why there is so much bloody mental illness and depression in society these days. Take a look at what you are feeding your body!

 

Natural, variety and moderation is the key.

 

There is so much nutritional value in real food that you just can not get in a bottle of something processed, no matter how much the adds lie to you otherwise. Example, taking a beta carotene supplement provides you with only a few of the carotenoids, eating a fresh carrot provides you with a whole group of hundreds of them in a balanced and bioavailable form. In fact, taking a supplement may actually put things out of balance because it will drive biochemical cycles to extremes to break it down because it is only a fraction of the group of many nutrients needed. Because it is not balanced with the others of the group, the supplement actually becomes an excess. Driving biochemical cycles to extremes is not good because that causes diseases - like cancer. Just eat real food! Real food is medicine.

 

As for the spinach/silverbeet, budgies need iron for breeding otherwise you will have more problems with hens feather plucking and attacking chicks. Calcium interferes with iron absorption (Calcium chelates iron), not usually the other way round. (Thats why you are not supposed to mix milk (calcium source) and meat (iron source) in the same meal). However in animals adapted to a high calcium diet it doesn't seem to make much difference because they adapt to what is fed to them as much as is physiologically possible. Vitamin C (ascorbic acid or sodium ascorbate) enhances iron absorption. It is the oxalic acid in spinach that binds calcium. But calcium is not the only thing that is needed to make an egg. Feed the budgies a balanced natural nutrition with all good things in moderation and the offspring that survive and reproduce will be those who best adapt to the nutrition and conditions provided. My breeding budgies get spinach and other veges, and native roughage.

Budgies are pretty smart, they eat it if they want/like/need it, and, well... they breed like budgies.

I use ACV a couple of times a week, as I've seen it recommended in lots of places, it's hard to judge if it really is as good as they say, as Macka says I use 10mls to the Litre.

 

 

How do you store it? EG plastic bottle etc and how long does it last made up as I only have 1 budgie

I use ACV a couple of times a week, as I've seen it recommended in lots of places, it's hard to judge if it really is as good as they say, as Macka says I use 10mls to the Litre.

 

 

How do you store it? EG plastic bottle etc and how long does it last made up as I only have 1 budgie

Make it up as you need it....just add a couple of drops to the drinker.