April 15, 200817 yr Author Yolk??? Do you know what it is called, I'd like to read up on it I can find anything re: loose yolk in Budgies .... It is an orange yellow colour??? She laid her last egg ages ago though
April 15, 200817 yr Neat is here a website where I found information it is called Egg Yolk Peritonitis, http://www.avianweb.com/eggyolkperitonitis.html, if this is what it is it sound pretty serious and an avian vet should be consulted immediately. Edited April 15, 200817 yr by Elly
April 15, 200817 yr Neat is here a website where I found information it is called Egg Yolk Peritonitis, http://www.avianweb.com/eggyolkperitonitis.html, if this is what it is it sound pretty serious and an avian vet should be consulted immediately. SNAP!! hehe I was just about to post that same site I hope she hasn't got this as it sounds pretty bad, and your hen seems to be well other than the lump Edited April 15, 200817 yr by **Liv**
April 15, 200817 yr Having recently studied animal anatomy as part of my final year of a uni degree I'm gonna stick my neck out and say it doesn't actually sound like the same thing to me. The description essentially says that the infected matter is internal (in amongst the abdominal tissues) as a diffused series of smaller masses, not just under the skin as a big bump. Hopefully this is not what she has but she still needs to be seen by a vet soon.
April 15, 200817 yr Sailor - With yolk in the coelom, would you be able to see it through the abdominal muscles and peritoneum and all that? I'm thinking it's subcutaenous. If it were any other person on another site I would have said lipoma with xanthoma, but Neat's birds have exercise and veggies and all that. Can lipomas start in a non-obese bird? It is a neoplastic process I guess. Do you have any ideas? Neat, if you are willing to handle her (don't if you think it will be too stressful) does her belly feel fluid, soft or firm? If you lift up the feathers elsewhere on the belly is it the same thing (the yellowy colour)? Edited April 15, 200817 yr by Chrysocome
April 15, 200817 yr The coelom is essentially the body fluid surrounding the internal organs, there is a layer of muscle/fat over the top of it so you wouldn't expect to see it as a singular mas under the skin like that.
April 15, 200817 yr Author Sailor - With yolk in the coelom, would you be able to see it through the abdominal muscles and peritoneum and all that? I'm thinking it's subcutaenous. If it were any other person on another site I would have said lipoma with xanthoma, but Neat's birds have exercise and veggies and all that. Can lipomas start in a non-obese bird? It is a neoplastic process I guess. Do you have any ideas?Neat, if you are willing to handle her (don't if you think it will be too stressful) does her belly feel fluid, soft or firm? If you lift up the feathers elsewhere on the belly is it the same thing (the yellowy colour)? okay I will tomorrow feel it , However her upper belly is a light grey blue colour and this lump is a yellow/ Orange No more orangle colour I am a little scared to touvh it incase it busts?????
April 15, 200817 yr ust touch it very gently and see if you can tell whether it's fluid filled or hard, it should be easy to tell.
April 15, 200817 yr Author Sailor - With yolk in the coelom, would you be able to see it through the abdominal muscles and peritoneum and all that? I'm thinking it's subcutaenous. If it were any other person on another site I would have said lipoma with xanthoma, but Neat's birds have exercise and veggies and all that. Can lipomas start in a non-obese bird? It is a neoplastic process I guess. Do you have any ideas?Neat, if you are willing to handle her (don't if you think it will be too stressful) does her belly feel fluid, soft or firm? If you lift up the feathers elsewhere on the belly is it the same thing (the yellowy colour)?okay I am doing it all now and will post clear picOk The Lump is soft and moveable NOT HARD !!!!It is of a Yolk Colour with some white bits in it ..Her upper body is of a different colour to the lump I am editing the picture and will post soon
April 15, 200817 yr Get her checked ASAP, if it is peritonitis or an abscess she may be developing an infection in the deeper tissues which has broken through to just under the skin.
April 15, 200817 yr picture has me a bit worried. The yellow bit seems to be the same colour/consistency as this bird with an (extreme) fatty lump - lipoma/xanthoma. http://www.birdhealth.com.au/bird/er/budgietumour.jpg Which came from this site - http://www.birdhealth.com.au/bird/er/conditions.html I'm also a bit worried about the dark red above that - from what I have seen normal skin should be a fleshy pink. I'm thinking a vet visit somehow.
April 15, 200817 yr I hadn't noticed that dark red! There are a few diseases in poultry that can present a little like that, sort of a red rash on the belly. I think you should definately get her looked at tomorrow, I know you are worried about the chick but given the vet is so close I think you need to decide whether you are more willing to risk the chick or the hen. If you lose the hen you may lose the lot of course...
April 15, 200817 yr I agree it looks like a lipoma (that I have seen too just pics here too on the boards), Robin's bird (phoebe) had one maybe she can see it too and the redness is maybe from her plucking and irritating it, many are treatable and can be shrink with medicine some are not but an avian vet at this point will know best. I agree with melbourne budgie best to take the chance and have her looked at.
April 16, 200817 yr Now that I've seen it it doesn't look like it could be a yolk, however I can't be sure with out actually holding the bird in my hand. Their skin is very see through, you can see their organs normally. So I would think that you could see a yolk too. Chryso: I guess a lipoma could happen anyway even in a healthy bird, just less likely. Cause a neoplasm is when the cells aren't under any control and they do what they like. Get her checked out. Bring babies along.
April 16, 200817 yr Author Hello Everyone ….. Firstly To those of you who helped me: I was freaking out a lot ….. The results from the vet: IT IS A FAT PAD !!!! Because she as over plucked you can see it … The muscle wall separates due to laying and sitting on eggs. There may be a little hernia but nothing to worry about she is fine …
April 16, 200817 yr Author It's the best news .... I sat the nestbox on the hotwatr bottle and they were fine too ,,,, I've checked and she is still beig a good mum .... OH THANK GOODNESS
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