Posted April 7, 200817 yr Started this thread here as my question is missed in the breeding posts. I have a beautiful green chick bred from 2 dominant pieds. How come this occured? I thought it would be a given that 2 dom pieds would breed a dom pied chick? The little one doesn't even have a pied spot on it's head.
April 7, 200817 yr If they are single factors this would produce Normals as well ..... are the parent split from anything ... Can you post a photo of front and back please
April 7, 200817 yr dom pied (SF) cock x dom pied (SF) hen would give you 50% dominant pied chicks (single factor), 25% normals and 25% double factored domiant pied
April 8, 200817 yr A double factor looks like a recessive pied but with Irus Rings. Also the beak and feet is normal colour. Grey
April 8, 200817 yr Author A double factor looks like a recessive pied but with Irus Rings. Also the beak and feet is normal colour. Grey Ah! Thank you! I get all these mixed up. Here I was thinking the DF was like a SF but with purple cere for cock! :(Laughing out loud):
April 8, 200817 yr DF have a lot more pied markings and very little normal they vary quit a bit "> A dom pied opaline green hen has a nice band through the mid section "> "> Pairing these two together would result in the combo Ravengypsy posted.
April 8, 200817 yr Double Factor Pieds usually don't have marking on the wings but around the neck more they look almost markless, the ones that throwback has are Single Factor Clearflighted Pieds...here is the page for all the member's Dominant Pieds (I looked and don't see a double factor but I may have missed it) http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=9579
April 9, 200817 yr Double Factor Pieds usually don't have marking on the wings but around the neck more they look almost markless, the ones that throwback has are Single Factor Clearflighted Pieds...here is the page for all the member's Dominant Pieds (I looked and don't see a double factor but I may have missed it) http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=9579 In a show breeders point of view:- I have always been a believer in breeding only normals to a variety. Not dom pieds to spangles or any other variety. Doing this is destroying the originality of the variety which is why we are see spangles with dom pied spots on there head and other marking faults. When the spangle first arrived on the scene it was thought to be so dominant that just a few in you stud and you will end up with a aviary full of them. There were a few older breeders that believed that normals out of spangles were different, maybe this is what has led to the Melanistic Spangle?? Who knows! They were always about purity of a variety not a mish-mash of several! Banded have always been my favorite, flighted just doesn't have enough pied in it for my liking, and recessive although I have seen some super Ress Pieds at the auctions you need super normals to breed good splits.
April 9, 200817 yr Author This is the pair that bred the normal green chick, I don't know if you can tell from the picture if they are DF or SF? The hen died after sudden heatwave. They are both Single Factor? Link to girl - you can just see part of her wings: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/kar...s21-10-2007.jpg Edited April 9, 200817 yr by karen
April 9, 200817 yr They are both single factor dominant pieds yes... throwback, the genetic pool is so amazing isn't it the more you read I think the more at least I get confused but in the end show or non show what a variety of colors .
April 21, 200817 yr Thanks Ravengypsy.What is a DF Dom Pied? Hi Karen, do you remember my Sunny? He is a good example of a DF dominant pied male: orange beak, pink cere, pink feet, few markings, and he does have iris rings - on both sides. front view back view Edited April 21, 200817 yr by Rainbow
April 21, 200817 yr Thanks Ravengypsy.What is a DF Dom Pied? Hi Karen, do you remember my Sunny? He is a good example of a DF dominant pied male: orange beak, pink cere, pink feet, few markings, and he does have iris rings - on both sides. front view back view Funny thing about DF dom pieds...there was one in a for sale cage yesterday at a budgie club meeting. A top show breeder and judge was looking at it and trying to work it out and asked me what I thought it was...I told him DF dom pied due to absence of colour on wings, dark colour on rump, appearance similar to recessive pied on the head area and presence of iris rings. He was suitably impressed with my "diagnosis" as he being a show breeder and judge they dont often see DF dom pieds as noone tries to breed them and they certainly dont put dom pied to dom pied like pet breeders will. Interesting conversation Edited April 21, 200817 yr by KAZ
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