Evening all ... I can not sleep as there are 101 questions in my head ..... so there will be a few post from me ....

 

So with the Mating table that is eithe online or even the one in FAQ ...

Is it always Cocks first then the hen ....

 

IE

 

Normal/split - green Who Ha

 

or can it be the other way around as some do not state ...

 

Thanks guys

Not sure what you mean by cock first or hen I talk about each bird separately.

 

Normal split to recessive pied means that the bird is a normal "looking" budgie all blue or all green and it carries the gene for recessive pied. The Normal Gene is dominant over the Recessive Pied gene therefore the Recessive Pied gene can not be visually seen because it is masked does that make sense?

Not sure what you mean by cock first or hen I talk about each bird separately.

 

Normal split to recessive pied means that the bird is a normal "looking" budgie all blue or all green and it carries the gene for recessive pied. The Normal Gene is dominant over the Recessive Pied gene therefore the Recessive Pied gene can not be visually seen because it is masked does that make sense?

 

Sorry Elly mate, that was just an example above ....

I just wanted to know if the first mutation is the cock and the second is the hen when we look at mating / breeding tables The cock comes first ???? Gosh I hope i am making sense,

yes I understand, I don't know about that everything I have used has said which sex it is by saying cock or hen

You're making sense... just

 

 

ie. Violet Recicive pied Cock + Grey Green Opaline Hen

Violet Recicive pied Hen + Grey Green Opaline Cock

 

are the outcomes the same... or am I misinterptreting what you asked?

The outcomes are different because of the opaline gene being sex-linked

 

the first pair the hen would give the opaline gene to her male off-spring but they would be split not visual

the second pair the cock would give the opaline gene to all his hen off-spring and they would be visual opaline

:mellow: ......................... you confuddle me with your words..

♥Indz

:mellow: ......................... you confuddle me with your words..

♥Indz

 

the key to understanding the sex-linked gene is understanding how they work and once you get that then they all work the same . I knew a little genetics before I learned this so it came quicker but this is what you remember.

 

Male (carries the sex-linked gene) - gives it to all his female off spring and you can see the mutation visually no matter what.

 

Female (carries the sex-linked gene) - gives to her male offspring and they will only be split (or the gene will be hidden) so that is why it is good to keep breeding records. The Male will only show it receives 2 of the sex-linked genes from both parents.

 

That may help a little .

This is very important when it comes to sex linked varieties as only the cock birds can carry this hidden gene. EG Normal Cock x Opaline hen gives you all normal hens and the cock birds wil carry the opaline gene.

Normal cock that carries this opaline Gene x Normal hen gives you opaline Hens and normal hens and all normal cocks

 

I think this is correct.

Sorry guys FAQ - BREEDING TABLE

 

In the link above it doesn't say cock or hen .....

I dont think it matters with the other varieties which is the cock and the hen. Only in the sexlinked varieties.

THANK YOU IKON ..... I understand the sex link part but wasn't sure on the others ....

Sorry guys FAQ - BREEDING TABLE

 

In the link above it doesn't say cock or hen .....

 

Ikon is correct and the mating table is okay because the sex-linked varieties it does specifiy cock or hen

Thanks Elly for your help too mate

okay... so Lacewing is sexlinked right?? If I take a Lacewing Cock and pair it with a Albino Hen am I still garanteed 50% Lacewing hens and 50% Albino Cocks?? I wouldn't have thought so... but I've not bred... :glare:

Jimmy from what i know ... Not much this is correct Males will be split too

Edited April 5, 200817 yr by Neat