Hi everyone,

 

Just joined up, as am in need of some serious suggestions on what might be wrong with our dear budgie Miss Olly, 2 days ago, she regurgitated some seed up, then had her neck bent back, also was swollen under her belly near her Bum! (sorry dont know budgie talk that well) We thought she was egg bound, as she is by herself and every now and again we get an egg from her, we took her to the pet shop and they gave her some spark, which has helped, and a dose of worming in her water. She is looking better, but not eating or drinking we are still using a syringe to give her water, but dont know what to feed her. she is alot lighter and not whistling like she normally does. She's been passing runny poo's but they are not your normal looking ones, mind you we did use some baby oil in her water last night. She keeps moving her head forward like she's going to fly but she just sits their?????

 

The pet shop doesnt reckon she's egg bound, but any suggestions on what we can feed her, or what might be wrong with our little baby Miss olly would be forever grateful.

 

thanks again!

First welcome to the forum we are glad you found us and you are asking question.

 

Now for the reality :hap:, pet shops are not avian vets and can not diagnosis what is wrong with your bird. I am surprised (but then I am not) that they even treated your bird at all. You need to find an avian vet in your area ASAP CLICK HERE TO LOOK-UP AVIAN VET.

 

An avian vet will be able to examine your bird, do tests to find out what is really wrong with your bird. What an avian vet will do is feel your bird's keel bone for weight loss, weigh your bird, do a poo stain, check to see if she is egg bound along with (maybe recommending) an x-ray.

 

There are many that have large scale aviaries on this site, know what to look for because of their experience but when you are not as experience and you have a pet budgie I feel the best thing you can do for your budgie is take them to a qualified avian vet before the bird becomes sicker.

Thanks for your quick response to my questions, just looked up the link you gave me and the closest is 200kms away so i will either try for one in our home town or give them a call. Thanks again!

Baby oil in the water !! Not a good idea. Nor is worming an already sick bird. I have yet to hear of any petshop that knows what they are talking about with regard to a birds health. They would not know if their behind was on fire to be honest. PM me for further contact details...if you live near me I can check your bird out. She does need feeding if she isnt eating as thats very serious. BUT in all seriousness I would take her to the vet. Excellent avian vet is in Wattlegrove...Tim Oldfield of wattle grove vets.

If you can't get her into the AVIAN vet asap as Kaz said and you are near her please take her up on her offer.

Thanks for your offer, but were in Bunbury and I'll have to see maybe if our Big Swamp Bird Park might be able to help?

 

Also we got told from a person that use to breed budgies and canaries that if they might be egg bound to use the baby oil, as it would pass through her and hopefully make it easier to pass, mind you she hadnt poo'ed at all yesterday and giving her that last night has made her go to the toilet.

 

I feel terrible poor little love, ive probably made her worse, any idea's what i can try and feed her?

Baby oil is not a natural oil like perhaps a parrafin oil is. BUT I have never heard of giving it to a bird by beak....Please stop using "remedies" that all kinds of people are telling you and try and get this bird seen by an expert. Budgie breeder if no vet available....by the time you try this and try that and listen to a lot of people who really dont know any better the bird could die.

 

Bunbury vets

 

Dr Alan McGregor

McGregor Vet Clinic

72 Blair Street

Bunbury WA 6230

08 9721 6778

Edited March 29, 200817 yr by KAZ

Please take Kaz and Elly's advice- your bird is very sick and needs an avian vet asap! Not eating/drinking is emergency especially for the inexperienced keeper. Do you have any rearing food and do you know how to crop tube? If not please find your closest breeder who can show you how. Budgies can only survive for about 1, maybe 2 days without food, maybe less if they are sick as well.

Losing weight, runny poos and swollen abdomen is also extremely worrying!

The use of oil by beak for egg binding is a myth, the uterus and gut are not really connected so it would not help at all (unless the egg is in the cloaca). Sure your budgie could be egg bound but it could also have cancer, obstruction or fluid in its abdomen just to name a few. An avian vet will tell you what is going on with tests like smears and x-rays.

Edited March 29, 200817 yr by Chrysocome

Yes thankyou Kaz for your advice, and for the info, i know where the vets are in bunbury. thanks again.

Please take Kaz and Elly's advice- your bird is very sick and needs an avian vet asap! Not eating/drinking is emergency especially for the inexperienced keeper. Do you have any rearing food and do you know how to crop tube? If not please find your closest breeder who can show you how. Budgies can only survive for about 1, maybe 2 days without food, much less if they are sick as well. Losing weight, runny poos and swollen abdomen is also extremely worrying! The use of oil by beak for egg binding is a myth, the uterus and gut are not really connected so it would not help at all (unless the egg is in the cloaca). Sure your budgie could be egg bound but it could also have cancer, obstruction or fluid in its abdomen just to name a few. An avian vet will tell you what is going on with tests like smears and x-rays.

Thankyou for your helpful information, its alot clearer now that you have put it into simple terms. You have answered all my questions so thanks again and i will get her help asap. thanks

You're welcome, for tonight you should set up a hospital cage for her - click here. Keep her warm and hydrated. Take lots of care if you are feeding by syringe not to let her inhale the water.

Please keep us updated on how it goes, good luck.

Edited March 29, 200817 yr by Chrysocome

Any news ???

sorry to hear about this!

gods speed on her recovery and that VET!

Hi Dakyle,

 

Poor Miss Olly, it really does sound like a vet emergency. By the time most budgies actually show signs of being ill they are very ill indeed. Budgies hide signs of illness as a survival strategy.

 

I really hope she gets through this. The bird place you mentioned may have avian vets on staff, so that could be a good option.

 

 

Feathers.

Thank you everyone for your kind words and suggestions, we did as you said, she has perked up today and is now drinking by herself and having some seed, she also has been sqwakking when i try and get her out of her cage, she also flew around but ive been keeping her as quiet as possible to get her better, she definatley does look better to what she did. Forgot to mention also that she ate the newspaper in the bottom of her cage before she got sick, she had never done this before... do you know what it means?

eating the newspaper may have gotten her sick? Maybe it was impacted somewhere maybe not. Female budgies love to shred they are the ones that clean out the holes in the trees and arrange their nests so this is just a natural behavior and nothing to worry about.

 

Continue to keep her quiet, warm for the next couple of days and continue to watch her behavior. At times budgies can rebound and then go down fast so I would suggest to still make that avian vet appointment.

I agree with Elly.. you still need to make an avian vet appointment just to do a double check of the situation.. As mentioned also, they have the ability to "perk" up quite quickly but sometimes thats just the begining of the roller coaster ride thats going to start slipping back down FAST.. Please seek medical advise and keep us posted

I hope Miss Olly is going to be okay. She sounds like a fighter. All the best with the avian vet. ((Hugs)) its so tough when they are sick and are not sure how to make them feel better.

Keep us posted.

Hi Dakyle & Welcome I am sorry that you have joined us on Bad Terms ... I hope That olly has a speedy recovery you have been given excellent advice and wonderful Offers Sometimes the Ink in newspapers can cause problems with Birds it is always good to have your grid on the bottom of the cage and have the paper to fit the tray this will stop the birds from pecking at the paper ..... Is there any more News have you gotten to the Swamp or a vet yet?? ....

And the BABY OIL in the water ... I am sure they meant castor Oil ... THis is used also on the vent to help pass eggs ..... ...... I have never seen or heard of a female JUST laying eggs with out a Male being present... Add this to my Referece Books

how is she doing?

:ausb: Oh dear, I am a bit behind on reading posts and just welcomed you and Miss Olly and now read this sad update. Hope she is doing better, let us know. :budgiedance:

So sorry for your loss. :yellowhead: Miss Ollie. (((((hugs)))))

Click Here she didn't make it I am so very sorry :yellowhead:

Edited April 2, 200817 yr by Elly

sorry to hear that :yellowhead:

Thanks so much for all your kind words xx

:'( just reading this.....i'm so very sorry losing a feathered freind is so...hard