You are right Maesie, nothing is made to last these days.

 

Interent is obviously operational again, washing machine man is coming on wednesday, and I will buy a new DVD come Thursday night.

 

Anyway, as Maesie pointed out, the birds are all well. I am hoping to see Sebby and Cheese's young ones fledge soon. I am thinking of closing off the breeding box and placing them all on the floor of the breeding cage in a container.

 

Hi Dave,

 

sounds fair to me if you don't want them going another round. Put a 'Kaz style' icecream container igloo in the cabinet.

 

 

Feathers.

Looking good Dave ......

I actaully have some little igloo's, the type you use with hansters and rats, not mice, the mice ones are smaller. I do not actually eat icecream, so it is hard to come up with icecream containers - (Laughing out loud) - so I bought these ones.

 

 

They cannot go another round as Mum was removed from the breeding box to another cage to prevent another round from happening and to allow her to regain some strength before heading back into the aviary. Note - she has layed 2 eggs in this cage, both from a perch, so she definitely wanted a new clutch.

Dave I have used LARGE Butter containers before as the ice cream hadn't been eaten yet .... But this was for a small clutch ....

Came home and was checking on the birds, when I realised that it was not actually Cheese that I was talking to, but rather the eldest young one. Cheese was sitting back and looking on. They look very similar. Cheese has a golden face and the young one does not. Only visible difference

Came home and was checking on the birds, when I realised that it was not actually Cheese that I was talking to, but rather the eldest young one. Cheese was sitting back and looking on. They look very similar. Cheese has a golden face and the young one does not. Only visible difference

One thing I have noticed in all my breeding Dave is how quickly and well the pied chicks are out of the nest and independant in comparison with other types. Very strange but true. I have also found this with the lacewing chicks that have all fledged now. I also find with pied chicks that their feathers feel so silky smooth in comparison with all other kinds of budgie chicks.

 

Look forward to more of your photos

Deb, you still out there? Any requests?

 

 

i am still around Dave and have been following your post and love watching how much the babies are growing but have not been having time to write any post as i am dealing with family issues at the moment. i love pieds and spangles and only have one male recessive pied at the moment so i am looking for a girl for him as the one i bought for him died a couple of weeks ago.

Once I work out genders, i will let you know Deb. I think that one of the pieds is a hen, I know that the eldest is male, the youngest might be male, the cinnamons are female, and that leaves one pied, and i think it is a hen.

 

Kaz, they come out, but go back int he nest at night. I am not sure how long they spend out, as my damn bank manager keeps insisting I go to work to pay my mortgage. Damn him.

thanks dave, when you work out what you are parting with let me know, i am also looking for a violet or cobalt because i have a 4 month old female cobalt spangle and i am looking for a male for her to pair with she is old enough.

Edited April 2, 200817 yr by deb

Good to hear everything is progressing nicely at yuor place dave. Thanks for the updates...

okay, update time.

 

Cheese and Sebby's clutch are spending more time outside the nestbox, so that is good, however they still return there at night. Sebby is looking quite healthy in her own little cage and she might make a return to the aviary soon.

 

Nibbler and Tralia's young are going very well. This is the way I see them feathering up.

Eldest - Cobalt/violet spangle

2nd eldest - Yellow faced blue - not sure one the shade

3rd eldest - another blue based spangle

4th eldest - a tellow faced type 2 spangle

youngest - too young to tell.

 

Hugo and Angel's clutch are all going well. Feathering up nicely.

Journeyman - he is a yellow face type 2 sky blue/recessive.

all of their clutch are going to look like their Dad - violet spangles and some may be split to the ino gene.

Pale ale now has some dark patches appearing on him and he is looking healthier than ever. he is going to make it.

 

An observation

There is a noticeable size difference between the young of Sebby and Cheese and the young of the other pairs. Now Nibbler and Hugo are both large birds, they do not have the show heads, but they all have length. Their partners are pet types, Angel and Tralia. The young look like they will be long, not so much big, but it is a good start.

 

Pics to come soon.

sounds like you have got some beautiful coloured babies but can i ask what is the ino gene and how would you see if a spangle is split for it, sorry if it sounds a stupid question.

The spangles are not split for the ino gene, sound of the pieds may be. Hugo the father is a Double factor dominant pied, the mother is an albino, so they are going to single factor dominant pieds, and since she is albino, they will stay blue based birds. The dominant pied is, as the name implies, dominant, so they get that from their father, and they are visually pied, but they must carry another gene, which they get from their mother. Now, their mother is a an albino, so she has and disaplys hte -ino gene. They may carry it, and it will appear in their offspring.

 

Deb, I pretty much plan on keep the majority if not all of the spangles and the dominant pieds, but I am not sure what to do with the recessive pieds. What about u Deb? You still interested? Anyone else in NSW looking for recessive pieds?

I love your signature Dave.........where did you buy the dishes of budgies

The spangles are not split for the ino gene, sound of the pieds may be. Hugo the father is a Double factor dominant pied, the mother is an albino, so they are going to single factor dominant pieds, and since she is albino, they will stay blue based birds. The dominant pied is, as the name implies, dominant, so they get that from their father, and they are visually pied, but they must carry another gene, which they get from their mother. Now, their mother is a an albino, so she has and disaplys hte -ino gene. They may carry it, and it will appear in their offspring.

 

Deb, I pretty much plan on keep the majority if not all of the spangles and the dominant pieds, but I am not sure what to do with the recessive pieds. What about u Deb? You still interested? Anyone else in NSW looking for recessive pieds?

 

thanks for explaining the ino gene for me, i would be really interested in your recessive pieds, i love their colours so i really want to breed some and have been trying to buy some but have not been able to find any in my area.

:hap: hahaha I want a budgie dish oh and hold the salt!

The spangles are not split for the ino gene, sound of the pieds may be. Hugo the father is a Double factor dominant pied, the mother is an albino, so they are going to single factor dominant pieds, and since she is albino, they will stay blue based birds. The dominant pied is, as the name implies, dominant, so they get that from their father, and they are visually pied, but they must carry another gene, which they get from their mother. Now, their mother is a an albino, so she has and disaplys hte -ino gene. They may carry it, and it will appear in their offspring.

 

Deb, I pretty much plan on keep the majority if not all of the spangles and the dominant pieds, but I am not sure what to do with the recessive pieds. What about u Deb? You still interested? Anyone else in NSW looking for recessive pieds?

 

thanks for explaining the ino gene for me, i would be really interested in your recessive pieds, i love their colours so i really want to breed some and have been trying to buy some but have not been able to find any in my area.

 

At this stage Deb, i think I am keeping the eldest and he appears to be a male, but there are 5 others i am thinking about. With me wanting to keep larger birds as a preference, there are 2 recessive pieds, one yellow faced blue type 2 who is split to recessive pied, one opaline cinnamon wing yellow faced blue type 2 and one cinnamon wing yellow faced type 1 sky blue. I might keep the last one, we will see, but the others may well go to your aviary. Where is your area?

 

As for the budgie dish in my signature Kaz and Indz, it is an old family heirloom. Well, not really, but the whole bird thing is. My father used to run a business called Bird products here in Sydney. He made everything from breeding cabinets, to nestboxes, to mouse houses. best moust house he ever made had 4 stories, big sheet of glass at the front, door you cold open from the side, ramps so they could run up and down, truly an artwork. Funny now, as i would love it if he still had that business. oh well .....

Looking forward to the Updated pics Dave, You'll need to start a new post this one is getting LOOOONNNNNGGGGG...(Laughing out loud)

i am in the newcastle area, Dave but i do not mind travelling to sydney to buy good birds from a breeder who cares about his birds. When you decide which ones you are selling just let me know, it must be so hard to part with any of them. i would be interested in the opaline if you decide to part with that one, i do not have any opalines in my flock and i would definitly be interested in the recessive pieds.

Deb, I am not interested in selling, this is a giveaway. Newcastle is alright. I might be heading up that way in the next couple of weeks anyway, so if i am, I will bring the birds and drop them in. My folks are going upto Bateau Bay for a holiday, and I might go up as well, we will see. I could simply drop them in if they are old enough by then to be eating by themselves. Also, I have school holidays coming up so a drive to Newcastle would not be a terrible thing for me.

 

Neat, no need for a new thread. I like this one. Long may it reign - (Laughing out loud)!!!!

 

As for the new pics, well here they are.

 

Let me update first.

 

Angel and Hugo's clutch is doing well. Angel is spending more and more time outside the nestbox. The journeyman looks like he might fledge soon, and the other three are all feathering up. Two at least look to have Hugo's incredibly bright blue/violet and that is very cool. Pale Ale is coming along well. Pale does not have the fluffy down feathers, but this is a result of him being so sick and having to put all his energy into surviving. Wonder if this will affect him later in life?

 

 

Tralia and Nibbler are raising five little ones.

 

Here they are the parents hanging out on the cage floor.

 

This is the Eldest. Violet spangle maybe? Nibbler is split to Violet, like his Dad Zeus (R.I.P.) was.

 

Second eldest looks to be a yellow faced blue

 

3rd and 4th look to be spangle, with one white wings and the other with yellow, probably yellow faced blue type 2

 

youngest is a big fella, but only now starting to feather up. cannot tell the colour yet

 

Lastly is Cheese and Sebby's clutch.

3 have fledged, 2 are yet to do so.

 

Eldest is a spitting image of dad, minus the golden face. 2 cinnamon girls, one is an opaline violet goldenface and the other a yellowface type 1 blue.

 

 

 

2 youngest are both pieds, but are yet to fledge.

 

 

Saturday will see a large clean out of the cages, blocking of some nestboxes and the moving of sebby and cheese's chicks to a floor igloo.

 

More pics will come then.

FANTASTIC !!! WONDERFUL !! SO HEALTHY LOOKING...I am in awe of these chicks, Dave. They are just marvellous !!

 

:D :budgiedance:

Thanks Kaz. Few questions.

 

I know the eldest spangle will be blue, but what type of blue? violet like hugo's blue? it is too deepa blue for sky, maybe cobalt?

 

hasn't pale ale filled out?

 

If a bird does not have the patch on the back of its head, can it still be split to recessive? My little cinnamon has no patch, thus the question

Thank you Dave, i live at Metford but a lot of people have never heard of it so i say Newcastle which is only 20 mins from me. My husband is having time off in the school holidays so if you cannot get up to my place i can get to sydney. Your babies are looking very beautiful, you have done a great job with them. i really appreciate you giving some birds to me.

Thanks Kaz. Few questions.

 

I know the eldest spangle will be blue, but what type of blue? violet like hugo's blue? it is too deepa blue for sky, maybe cobalt?

 

hasn't pale ale filled out?

 

If a bird does not have the patch on the back of its head, can it still be split to recessive? My little cinnamon has no patch, thus the question

It is a cobalt spangle budgie Dave

 

Pale Ale is nothing short of a miracle Dave.

 

And the split to recessive patch doesnt happen with all split to recessive birds...just some

It is a cobalt spangle budgie Dave

 

Pale Ale is nothing short of a miracle Dave.

 

And the split to recessive patch doesnt happen with all split to recessive birds...just some

 

Cool. Whatever the blue colour, he/she...I am thinking he, well be a very good looking bird.

 

Pale Ale is a little miracle. I might need to change his name. I think something with some very religious overtones might be needed. He will be a white bird with some markings, he is a miracle in many ways, his mother is Angel, so i think he might become either Gabriel, Leo (the whitelight on charmed - yes yes, useless knwoledge clutters my head) or Zauriel. Gabriel seems the most possible I think

 

I was wondering about that patch. All of Cheese's youngsters have to be split. Dad is a recessive pied, so he has 2 recessive genes. regardless of mum, they all must be at least split.

 

Deb, we will give them a week or two to see how they are going, then we will make a decision.

 

Oh, and Kaz, thank you for those wonderful comments!!