September 27, 200717 yr Hi Kaz,Yeah I thought she was a bit young. Should I leave her with the eggs or take her completely out of the avairy? Also, with the younger chicks, will they be okay with having a sibling so much bigger than them, will it take too much feed away from the younger ones? Sandy The problem you have is when you have birds too young to breed in an aviary with nesting boxes. The nesting boxes give them the motivation to breed. So when birds are too young they may have to be kept separate until old enough. Too late now. Try and remember for the future or you may have to seek emergency treatment for eggbound young hens. Keep an eye on the young chicks to be sure they have food in their crops. First 4 days or so is really important, after that they should be okay. But just the same, check all babies once they arrive twice daily if you can...morning and just before evening.
September 27, 200717 yr Author Try and remember for the future or you may have to seek emergency treatment for eggbound young hens. Keep an eye on the young chicks to be sure they have food in their crops. First 4 days or so is really important, after that they should be okay. But just the same, check all babies once they arrive twice daily if you can...morning and just before evening. This is the youngest hen in the avairy, but I do check on her every day. The last egg she laid was a bit bigger than the first 4. I do have another hen that seems to be on eggs that aren't going to hatch. Should I transfer the eggs to the older hen and see if they are fertile and take the young hen out of the avairy so that she can't breed anymore? I have been checking the chicks twice a day since the first one hatched and it has always had a good full crop. She never leaves the nest, daddy comes and feeds her. Today was the first time I've handled the chick as I didn't want to disrupt mum too much with her first clutch. Thanks for all of your advice Sandy
September 27, 200717 yr Try and remember for the future or you may have to seek emergency treatment for eggbound young hens. Keep an eye on the young chicks to be sure they have food in their crops. First 4 days or so is really important, after that they should be okay. But just the same, check all babies once they arrive twice daily if you can...morning and just before evening. This is the youngest hen in the avairy, but I do check on her every day. The last egg she laid was a bit bigger than the first 4. I do have another hen that seems to be on eggs that aren't going to hatch. Should I transfer the eggs to the older hen and see if they are fertile and take the young hen out of the avairy so that she can't breed anymore? Too late...like I said...try not to allow hens too young to breed in the future by having them in an aviary with nesting boxes. I have been checking the chicks twice a day since the first one hatched and it has always had a good full crop. She never leaves the nest, daddy comes and feeds her. Today was the first time I've handled the chick as I didn't want to disrupt mum too much with her first clutch. Thanks for all of your advice Sandy
September 29, 200717 yr Author The oldest Chick is an Opaline. Really!! Where in the heck did that come from???? Maybe daddy's got it there somewhere??? Can opaline be a recessive gene (hidden) in either males or females? I can't wait to see what color they come out as.... hehehe Sandy p.s. I just thought..... The hen is a normal yellowface, (meaning the black over the mantle etc) but she has this little yellow dot at the back of the head, I remember someone saying that this is normally found in ??????? I can't remember now what was said, maybe Pieds ????? Edited September 29, 200717 yr by josh
October 1, 200717 yr Opaline is a sex linked gene so, yes, males can be carrying it. It is thought that the spot on the back of the head can mean that they are split to recessive pied.
October 5, 200717 yr Author Hi Again everyone, I took some photo's yesterday and thought that you may all like to see the progress of our first homebred chicks. The feathers are just starting to come through and it looks like it'll be a skyblue yellowface??? The other 2 chicks are 9 days behind the eldest so we will have to wait a little longer to see what color they will be. Talk soon Sandy Top view.... eldest chick All 3 chicks.
October 5, 200717 yr Your Yellowface skyblue opaline is a pretty little hen :bluebudgie: good luck with the rest., and you have more opalines coming through too in the other chicks.
October 5, 200717 yr Author Your Yellowface skyblue opaline is a pretty little hen :bluebudgie: good luck with the rest., and you have more opalines coming through too in the other chicks. Hi Kaz, Do you mean the chick is a hen, or are you speaking of the mum?? I really look forward to my daily visits to the breeding boxes... :dbb1: They just grow so much everyday...!
October 5, 200717 yr Your Yellowface skyblue opaline is a pretty little hen :bluebudgie: good luck with the rest., and you have more opalines coming through too in the other chicks. Hi Kaz, Do you mean the chick is a hen, or are you speaking of the mum?? I really look forward to my daily visits to the breeding boxes... They just grow so much everyday...! The chick is a hen :dbb1:
October 5, 200717 yr Author The chick is a hen :bluebudgie: Hi Kaz, okay, learning opportunity here.... How can you tell??? Sandy
October 5, 200717 yr In this nest it's easy to tell gender for you Sandy, as hens can't carry the opaline gene but males need two opaline gene for it to show since the mother is not opaline then all babies that appear opaline (2 oldest) will be hens. I meant to add that she is very cute too. Edited October 5, 200717 yr by Nerwen
October 8, 200717 yr Author Well.... I know that this topic was about how the eggs weren't hatching... BUT! Now they are!! hehehe We got 3 chicks out of the first clutch and after more than 2 weeks with the other eggs, I decided to have a look and found 2 chicks, fully formed, but had died in the egg. I'm just wondering if it got too hot for them??? Anyway, I thought that I would send you all some photo's (taken today) of the 3 chicks, 1st chick, 3 weeks old today. Second chick and the third chick... Much darker than the other 2 at the same age. And this from the nest of the double factor pied?? and pastel violet cock bird, the first signs of life!! :(Laughing out loud):
October 8, 200717 yr Author LOVE this photo I know... Isn't it cute!! I was so excited when I peeked into the box. What colors could I expect from this pairing do you think? I know it's a bit of a guess as I don't know the parents of the parents, but I thought you'd have a better idea than me! Sandy Mum is a double factor dominant pied And dad is a pastel violet...
October 8, 200717 yr Pastel violet isnt a budgie mutation Josh, Is it a cinnamon violet opaline ? Both parents being violets you will certainly get violets out of this pair. Edited October 8, 200717 yr by KAZ
October 8, 200717 yr Author Pastel violet isnt a budgie mutation Josh, Is it a cinnamon violet opaline ? Both parents being violets you will certainly get violets out of this pair. HI kaz, So, violets can't be pastel, is that right??? I wouldn't have thought he was cinnamon as he doesn't have browny colors on the wings. They aren't black black.... more like a light black... The hen's rump spot is almost a cobalt blue that violet as well. Thanks Sandy
October 8, 200717 yr Your hen is violet and there is NO PASTEL in budgies as far as I know. A term that isnt used at all. Do you have a clearer photos of the dads wing markings in the colour he actually is ? The two photos you have there are one in the shade and the other by flash of the camera. Edited October 14, 200717 yr by KAZ
October 8, 200717 yr Author Hi again, Here is a good shot. From left to right.... The Aust pied cock bird, then the violet and behind him is a cinnamon skyblue hen. The violet is somewhere inbetween I think. Sandy
October 8, 200717 yr He may be a greywing.The chicks will all be dominiant pie & 75% will be violet & 25% blue.
October 8, 200717 yr I agree with Macka. Your boy looks like a greywing violet hen I had once. Do you have a better or clearer photo of the wings in sunlight ? Edited October 14, 200717 yr by KAZ
October 14, 200717 yr Author Hi Everyone, I just took some more photo's of the YF chicks and thought that you might all like to see how much they have grown. The eldest is the skyblue opaline, the second is what seems to be a violet cinnamon opaline???? Don't know where that came from!!! and the 3rd one is.... Well.... what do you think??? It's very dark compared to the other two chicks.... So I don't know, maybe a type 1 YF... Sandy 1st chick.... 2nd chick 3rd chick...?? All chicks together....
October 14, 200717 yr Very pretty Josh. Second chick appears to be YF cinnamon violet. Third chick is either a cobalt or violet normal and seems to be carrying the tiny spot on the back of the head that most "split to" recessive carry....strange. Edited October 14, 200717 yr by KAZ spelling
October 14, 200717 yr Author Hi Kaz, The third chick is definately blue... It was alway much darker than the other two chicks.... I was wondering what that lone feather on the back of the head was doing there... but I have no idea where the violet came from??? Here's another photo of the 3rd chick, you can see the blue feathers on the tail. Sandy
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