Posted January 8, 200520 yr I got photo happy today. So I decided to put these up with the best description of what type they are for anyone interested in pieds or genetics. This is Rainbow. He is a dominant pied, but can also be classed as a type 2 yellowface opaline whitewing blue. That description fits a "rainbow", but I don't think he was a true rainbow budgie because of the band across his middle and the pied spot on the back of his head. He is the father of all my baby birds. This is Skittles. She is pied also, isn't marked like a pied. I only know she is pied because of the pied patch on the back of her head, and also because her flights are not all colored normally. She is the mother of all my babies. 1st clutch of babies: Blueberry. She looks like a dominant pied, but she has no iris ring. I believe she is a cobalt, and she is really both blue and purple on her back. She will probably never get spots on her necklace, as she has already molted twice and they've never come in. She is opaline. The other bird is Cloud, and he looks like a recessive pied, but he does have an iris ring as well as a blue cere. He won't get spots either. He is skyblue. It's too confusing to me to think of Berry as recessive and Cloud as dominant, but according to the official description that is what they are. They just don't look like it. Patches. She is a dominant pied, and is also two-toned on her back. She is also opaline. I'm not sure if she is considered skyblue or mauve. Maybe someone can tell me. Blossom (inside cage) and Mystery (outside). They are from pied parents, but do not have any pied characteristics at all. Not even the pied spot. Go figure. They are considered type 2 yellowface greywing opaline skyblues. The type 2 yellow factor is what makes them look green, but they are blue birds. This is Mystery by herself. You can tell she is really a blue bird if you look at the feathers near her legs. 2nd clutch: This is Sunny. He is marked like a recessive pied, but he has an iris ring. He will never get spots on his necklace, and his cere will always remain pink. His base color is cobalt blue, which is only apparent on his rump. Crystal. He is like Skittles in that he looks normal, but has the pied patch on the back of his head, and his flights are white instead of black. I think he is considered skyblue. Arctic. He also looks normal, but has the pied patch. He is cobalt. Sky. She is the baby. I believe she is dominant pied, and considered skyblue. She only has spots on one side of her necklace. That is the only side they ever showed up on, which makes her unique looking to me.
January 8, 200520 yr Author ***I didn't know there was a photo limit on posts*** As you can see, they are pretty unconcerned when I get snap-happy with the camera. The only one who cared to look to see what I was doing was Sunny, the rest fell asleep. I'm pretty sure they wonder about me sometimes...they all look like they are going "...huh????...." Hope you enjoyed.
January 8, 200520 yr Great pictures Mine wonder about me sometimes when i'm holding something differant like a cake bar etc.
January 9, 200520 yr Author They cracked me up - most of them have their heads tilted to one side in my last picture. I have no idea what they were looking at!
January 9, 200520 yr Yeah great pictures!! But how do you do to remember soooooo many names? They are all really cute and adorable (i dont know why but ive been saying adorable way too much lately).
January 9, 200520 yr beautifully birds, it's great to see them all singularly and learn their names Have to say I have two birds like Sky, with only one side with spots, they looks so crooked don't they. rainbow a bit off topic but can you tell me if you have problems keeping all of you birds together at all? I'm sure it's answered somewere but I can find it just now. Do you have like a bird you know is the lowest rank in flock?
January 9, 200520 yr Rainbow I am just so full of admiration at your knowledge-all those terms and stuff-just makes my jaw drop! I wonder what was going on in the last picture! Made me laugh! Julie
January 9, 200520 yr rainbow, what do you mean by the 'pied patch' is it when there is a plain patch on the back of the head and bars all around it? i have a budgie called casper who looks just like cloud except he has a pinkish/blue cere, an iris ring and no spots on his necklace. is he a recessive pied? i really admire all of your birds, i bet they have a lot of fun!
January 9, 200520 yr Author nerwen, I don't have any problems keeping them together. They don't like to be seperated! Believe it or not, Skittles is low bird on the totem pole. She was number one until the 1st clutch of babies reached 5-6 months old, then Blueberry took over as queen. Skittles will fight back now (she didn't used to), and sometimes wins so I think the dynamics are changing again. Never a dull moment around here... budgie_babe, I took that picture of Rainbow over the summer. It's one of my favorites. pixie25, Yes, that's what I mean. You can barely see it in Skittles, Blueberry, and Patches pics. If your bird looks like Cloud I think he should be recessive. But one of the definitions of a recessive pied is that they do not get the iris ring, so if you go by the official definition, he is not and my Cloud is not either. Hence, my confusion too. I always thought you could look at the way the colors were patterned on the bird and tell, but I don't guess you can.
January 9, 200520 yr wow great pics and so much terminology (woah big word there!) makes me jealous when i think of my 2 upstairs. (only two!?!?!?!)
January 9, 200520 yr happyness is a colorfull budgie flock you know I love all of your babies thet make me soo happy I thought budgies with out an Iris were Recessive Pied my kiwi has a spot on the back of her head but she is a normal greene the spot ONLY means that she carries the Recessive Pied gene
January 9, 200520 yr this is a dominant, pied budgie there color patches are broken up a lor clear than Recessive where there color pattern is a lot more splothcy. so my rainbow is a dominant pied & sunshine & sky are my Recessive
January 9, 200520 yr hmmm, his colour seems random but he does have an iris so i guess he would be dominant? i will have to post up some pics sooner rather then later so that everyone can see! (will get my other half to help me, cuz i know nothing about computer pixels and what have you (Laughing out loud))
January 9, 200520 yr wow, you learn alot from this post about colours etc. I find it quite interesting but that just me :bluebudgie:
January 10, 200520 yr well see the colour distribution is determined by how much pie genes the bird has (single or double) Breeders and show world people want the bar in the middle of the bird for a dominant pie like the one Kathy showed but really they can get patterns any old way. The iris is the bit to look for.
January 10, 200520 yr Author kathy, your Kiwi is a non-visual pied. When paired up, she will produce pieds. I think whether they would be dominant or recessive will depend upon the genes of the other bird. I would have thought that Sunshine was a dominant pied as well, judging from her color, and that Sky could be either, depending upon whether there is an iris ring or not. I'm starting to think the iris ring (or lack thereof) is what really determines whether the bird is dominant or recessive. If hath sees this, would you please check your genetics books?
January 10, 200520 yr yep that's how I see it too Rainbow, I forgot to add last time thanks for the info about the ranks, I thought it was normal for one to be on the bottom, as Marine seems to be in at the moment.
January 11, 200520 yr Author I found a great article about pieds! (I posted a link in a new thread under budgie facts.) Check it out if you want to know more. We can probably discuss it under that thread because with all the pictures I put up this probably is not the fastest-loading page.....
