Edited July 20, 200915 yr by krosp

i got one for you kaz

 

i breed a normal green split recessive pied to a recessive pied hen

 

and got 1 recessive pied but if died

 

and 2 normals but thay have no spots

Some of you may not know that the origional Spangles also had a spot on the back of the head. Clearwing

Off and on, on this forum, there has been discussion about the marking that is a spot on the back of a budgies head. More often than not, the automatic conclusion drawn is that the bird is a dominant pied, even if it looks as a normal would look except for the spot. A couple of us, on here, The Pie and myself and maybe others have said about "split to" recessive also having a spot on the back of their head. The difference seems to be the size of the spot. My split to recessives have a tiny spot where a dominant pied would have a much larger spot.

I have had many chicks in nests that are to a recessive pied parent and a normal or such other parents. In these nests often the normals have a tiny spot on the back of their heads. I have a nest at the moment where the father is recessive pied and the mother is a cinnamon cobalt. At least two chicks in the nest so far have the "spot".

So here's some photos showing the "split to" recessive spot we often talk about.

Eldest chick with spot

 

Next chick developing its spot

 

 

 

another youngster with the SPOT also split to recessive

 

and an adult...split to recessive ( also showing his spot )

 

 

Kaz....this is the thread I was reading last night - when I thought I had it all worked out !!

 

So....does this mean that if a bird has a big patch then that bird is dominant pied - regardless what it looks like?????

 

Then if it has a smaller patch it could be split recessive??? - but not necessarily if the bird is a spange...??

So....does this mean that if a bird has a big patch then that bird is dominant pied - regardless what it looks like?????

 

I dont believe so but others have said it is so. I am yet to be convinced that a budgie that looks like a normal in all respects and has a head patch is called a dominant pied ....I stand to be corrected just the same if anyone knows the facts.

Ckeck the natioal standard for dominant pieds, I remember us making a law in Victoria that said a pied must have at least one pied flight, but I don't know what the national standard currently reads, I haven't judged for a few years{retied}

So....does this mean that if a bird has a big patch then that bird is dominant pied - regardless what it looks like?????

 

I dont believe so but others have said it is so. I am yet to be convinced that a budgie that looks like a normal in all respects and has a head patch is called a dominant pied ....I stand to be corrected just the same if anyone knows the facts.

 

okay, thanks Kaz....

Ckeck the natioal standard for dominant pieds, I remember us making a law in Victoria that said a pied must have at least one pied flight, but I don't know what the national standard currently reads, I haven't judged for a few years{retied}

 

 

That should raed national standard sorry blame the typist ooops thats me.

The standard states that any ground colour spot on the back of the head or any odd ground colour feathers on any part of the body does not satisfy the requirements for any of the pied varieties

Edited January 29, 201015 yr by KAZ